Aurora movie theater shooting day 46: Prosecution to finish cross-examination of expert Dr. Raquel Gur

Prosecution to finish cross-examination of schizophrenia expert Dr. Raquel Gur on day 46 of the Aurora movie theater shooting trial – People vs. James Eagan Holmes. During the course of the trial, prosecutors will argue that Holmes, the admitted gunman, was sane when he went into the midnight premiere of the Dark Knight Rises in an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater and opened fire on the audience, killing 12 and wounding 70. His defense attorneys will try to spare Holmes’ life by arguing that he was insane. 7NEWS and TheDenverChannel.com will have gavel to gavel coverage of the trial starting at 8:15 a.m. (MST) everyday and ending around 5:30 p.m. (MST) Watch new live video on our YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/7NewsDenver/live Additional resources:LIVE VIDEO & BLOG: http://bit.ly/theatertrialTIMELINE of the case: http://bit.ly/theatertimelineJURY PROFILE: http://bit.ly/theaterjury CONTINUING COVERAGE: http://bit.ly/theatercoverage

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But this is where we are talking about the difference in forensics, because if its not written down, it didn't happen.

by Tammy Garrison 7/9/2015 4:33:01 PM
Hence Reid's videotaping becomes more valuable and reliable

by M 7/9/2015 4:33:03 PM
King, she said her conclusion stands.Sit down now to limit the damage!!!

by sher 7/9/2015 4:33:09 PM
Here is my problem with leaving a lot out of the notes. People's memories are notorious for changing things over time. I'm not saying she had to document everything, but there are things that she claims are important that are NOT in the notes or report. It just looks bad.

by ms 7/9/2015 4:33:15 PM
@ Gur that's why it's so convenient/ effective to use VIDEO! i.e Reid. And if I'm not mistaken that was suggested to her before she even sat down with JH.

by Della (Me) 7/9/2015 4:33:19 PM
I wish Mr King and Dr Gur would just ask and answer questions without the poor acting and attempt at drama! It's trivializing the cross - the jury is smart enough to figure out the key points without the embellishments (having sat on a jury)

by Edy 7/9/2015 4:33:25 PM
How did we go from 13 hrs with jh to 28 hrs Gur spent with jh?

by NT8 7/9/2015 4:34:30 PM
@NT8 Dr. Gur's initial report was based on 13 hours of interviews, then she reviewed case files and met with him twice more before submitting her final report. Brauchler has attacked the first report quite a bit.

by anica.padilla 7/9/2015 4:35:44 PM
But you gave your opinion after 13 hours of interview Dr, why did you feel the need to reinterview mr.Holmes for an other 15 hours or so?

by Humble Pride 7/9/2015 4:35:51 PM
@Humble She reviewed 100,000 pages of documents and watched Dr. Reid's interview, then went back to discuss those things with the gunman.

by anica.padilla 7/9/2015 4:36:41 PM
This is what video and or audio recorders are for. Can't be a coincidence that None* of the DT doctors have anything other than notes and memory to go off of.

by Mark 7/9/2015 4:36:49 PM
I just discovered this chat yesterday,but have followed since opening arguments. Glad to have found this even if only now. Thanks for having this available.

by ad hoc 7/9/2015 4:36:57 PM
Knowing that the documentation you are providing is going to be used as a legal document, you make sure all info is there. Minimally I believe, the audio of her interviews should have been done.

by MyraJ 7/9/2015 4:37:01 PM
Again the difference between a clinical evaluation and a forensic one. In a forensic evaluation there are issues that are critical to document that may be reasonably inconsequential to a clinical evaluation

by 5W 7/9/2015 4:37:03 PM
People only want the entire transcript or recording so that they can issue their own opinion or make their own determinations...that is Gur's job.

by LawDog 7/9/2015 4:37:07 PM
Someone please explain "impeaching" a witness. Legal Beagles?

by DocJ 7/9/2015 4:37:12 PM
Can someone explain what is being discussed, please?

by Brandi 7/9/2015 4:37:15 PM
I neither have any respect for Dr. Gur, her opinions or her ability to do right by these proceedings. I have worked in the medical field for 30 years, and you have to report, write reports, and keep records for 7 years! The reason for these notes is in case the doctor gets sued that they have some documentation of what they wrote so they can protect themselves from law suits. This woman is a mess, and I hope the jury sees through her nonsense, and the fact that she is only a paid reporter for the defense, nothing else matters to her, except that she is able to stand on her opinion of his insanity. She truly feels "I am the expert in this field and the only expert, my people don't question my abilities and neither should you, any of you". It is obvious by her constantly talking over people that she has a very high revere for herself, a bit narcissistic I would say!

by tim 7/9/2015 4:37:29 PM
She always said he spent 28 hrs with him that I heard

by LG 7/9/2015 4:37:35 PM
I did not understand objection & ruling

by Brandi 7/9/2015 4:37:39 PM
I get that she didn't feel it necessary to write every single thing down but, in my opinion, she should've video taped it.

by Liz 7/9/2015 4:37:41 PM
@NT8- Gur made her diagnosis of insane at hour 13, but "examined" him for a total of 28 hours

by Victoria 7/9/2015 4:37:48 PM
I think it was 13 hours prior to issuing her first report and 15.5 hours after

by LawDog 7/9/2015 4:37:54 PM
Her first report was written after 13 hours of interview. She spent another 15 hours with him after that.

by 5W 7/9/2015 4:37:57 PM
I wonder if the lack of video or tape recordings of the sessions might have been intentional to not show how sane he really was.

by vt 7/9/2015 4:38:00 PM
this line of questioning seems like he is beating a dead horse and desperate at this point....not sure he has confidence in his witness.....video in interviews/assessments would solve all issues...i.e. lack of notes and patients demeanor and "own words"....should be mandatory.....even if it skews a bit ....would still be able to get the whole picture...would help jury...

by A.L. 7/9/2015 4:38:06 PM
Thanks Anica, I was thinking maybe the 22hrs of Reids video but those numbers didn't add up.

by NT8 7/9/2015 4:38:11 PM
Come out, come out, wherever you are. ( the Wizard of Oz addressing the munchkins ). It's safe to give your opposing opinions now. LOL ;)

by Kristle 7/9/2015 4:38:23 PM
There were PT docs that did not videotape...no conspiracy

by LawDog 7/9/2015 4:38:26 PM
If you don't write notes and complete a longer report, does that mean the jury can't review it only base their opinions on your "in court testimony"?

by Just Thinkin 7/9/2015 4:38:27 PM
I think that the reason the YouTube chat room don't attack each other (as much) is because the YouTube chat room is faster in it's scrolling down because of the increase number of people posting.

by CindyL 7/9/2015 4:45:43 PM
Ted Kaczynski distrusted psychiatry almost as much as some in this blog.

by Patty Scabby 7/9/2015 4:45:48 PM
Just Thinkin, Judge Milan from The People's Court would call that "flapping gums." In other words, you can say anything that you want to and even recall conversations for the first time today. Where is the evidence to prove that is true? If its that important, it should have been in the report.

by Tammy Garrison 7/9/2015 4:45:54 PM
@DocJ; this link will take you to a page that explains "Impeachment of a Witness".

criminal.lawyers.com

by BernerMom 7/9/2015 4:45:58 PM
I thought i heard that 13 hours was all she spent with JH, then other hours was spend looking through reports, video tapes, etc....

by Suzanne 7/9/2015 4:46:09 PM
@TIM I totally agree. I am getting that from her also that she is way too full of herself..Jury senses this for certain! She is not used to being "interrogated." And I tell you that for me Gur does not make me feel certain that any type of head doctor knows more than I do by simply following my gut instincts!

by Trial watcher 7/9/2015 4:46:15 PM
someone in here asked earlier what time was Gur's flight,,, it's either 5:30 or 6:30 today,,, was hard for me to tell for sure because of her accent,, but one or the other anyways

by shuffie 7/9/2015 4:46:19 PM
@tim I agree her talking over everyone including the judge is a sign that she doesn't respect the court. People who were shot, who lost loved ones, who had to be in the same room, some for the first time with JH. Were able to withhold their emotions and not talk about stuff they were not suppose to talk about.

by bob 7/9/2015 4:46:23 PM
IMO - As smart as JH is...he has to be pissing his pants about now. What he hoped to obtain from Dr. Gur's testimony, was shredded by DB. At least, I believe that is the way the jury will see it.

by kdsmith 7/9/2015 4:46:28 PM
I don't think there is a conspiracy because their is no videotape. I just think if the defense thought his actions in a videotape would back up the fact that he was insane, they would have made one.

by ms 7/9/2015 4:46:30 PM
Yes, it is your blog Anica. Thanks for letting me occasionally participate. I find it interesting that you would shut me off for commenting (not personal) on a statement that said she hoped to see his fist pump when killed. Then she comes back and talks about bullies. It wasn;t towards me since you didn't publish my concern and it was sarcastic, sorry, but her statement was perhaps the meanest and no one pointed it out. I think many people see the imbalance in statements, some caused by you. You are in an honored position to preserve the integrity of the courts, but it appears your bias is limiting some serious input. My opinion. Sure you are a nice person, but since ,this is the only blogn
around.

by oxk 7/9/2015 4:47:23 PM
Having the entire transcript also allows the jury to establish whether certain things were in fact discussed as presented. The question seems to be- did JH actually say some of the things Dr. Gur is presenting, or did Dr. Gur interprete what he said nd present that. I am not doubting Dr. Gur particularly but that is the case for all witnesses. Some of the expert witnesses in this case HAVE to be wrong since we have some very different opinions on JH mental state.

by 5W 7/9/2015 4:51:49 PM
If a witness testifies at trial, there’s a chance to impeach that witness. In other words, a witness’s testimony can be challenged for truthfulness. Either side can impeach a witness, even their own. Impeachment can occur on direct examination or cross-examination. There are different rules for impeaching an accused who takes the stand as a witness and all other witnesses. This article deals with the impeachment of witnesses other than the accused.

by NT8 7/9/2015 4:51:53 PM
Psychiatry isn't exact...point blank and period!

by Joni Utter Anderson 7/9/2015 4:52:01 PM
I still think she catered her report for the DT since they hired her. And she expects that the court just needs to take her word on everything not covered in her report. Reid was hired by the court, not PT. Reid didn't have a bias.

by Suzanne 7/9/2015 4:52:02 PM