@Suzzanne, maybe that will be the time for an outburst, or episode?
by NT87/20/2015 4:48:14 PM
Is there an instruction for wanton disregard of killing children under the age of 12?
by DocJ7/20/2015 4:48:15 PM
@DocJ I think the defense wants "intentionally" to stay as well - implying he went in to kill random people, not specifically children.
by anica.padilla7/20/2015 4:49:07 PM
@DocJ I think he asked about a child being killed due to the police scanner that was on when he was in jail and we all could hear it on the video they played... Most people wouldn't have had a child at a Midnight showing so I don't think he went there to just kill children
by LG7/20/2015 4:52:27 PM
She's asked that and been denied that before. So, not hearing any testimony and just hearing the instructions, I'm currently leaning towards LIPWOP.
by Tammy Garrison7/20/2015 4:52:30 PM
Phil is coming up to describe the phases of the sentencing phase.
7NEWSNow that the gunman has been found guilty, the court is preparing to ask the jury to deliver the appropriate sentence.
by anica.padilla7/20/2015 4:55:00 PM
I understand opening arguments begin today in the Fero's Bar Slayings. Is there a Facebook Page set up for this Denver Trial? Also, is it being televised or streamed? Thank you.
by Nadine7/20/2015 4:58:40 PM
Good morning everyone! I was late to hear the verdict Thursday evening, so that night was able to watch the entire proceeding on YouTube.
by Kristle7/20/2015 4:58:45 PM
Does anyone know if George Brauchler tweeted anything after the verdict?? If so, what did he tweet?
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:02:49 PM
@Kristie I didn't see a tweet from George
by LG7/20/2015 5:07:01 PM
@ Kristi - I'm following AC on twitter and nothing.
by Suzanne7/20/2015 5:16:21 PM
Channel 7 showing AC's closing argument, waiting for the court to reconvene.
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:16:24 PM
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:16:26 PM
What does Deposition mean?
by what does depsition mean??7/20/2015 5:16:29 PM
@Kristle oooooh that's a good question!
by Della (Me)7/20/2015 5:16:33 PM
I thought it to be SO remarkable that neither side even blinked an eye when the verdict was read on that first murder charge. There was literally NO reaction on either side. So weird.
by Della (Me)7/20/2015 5:16:38 PM
I doubt he would tweet again, DT might by so desperate to again worthlessly try and attack him again
by JG7/20/2015 5:16:54 PM
The last tweet I see from GB was in June 9th
by Victoria7/20/2015 5:16:59 PM
I printed off the statutes Friday. PS: I found a motion submitted by the defense back in August of 2013 claiming the lying in wait/ambush aggravating factor was unconstitutional. It's motion D-162. Did he rule on this today? Phil, I have three, maybe four of the aggravating factors circled. Can you list them again? Thanks!
by Kels7/20/2015 5:17:02 PM
@Della, the judge did lay down some courtroom courtesy rules on Thursday. I wasn't anticipating anything from the defense, but there were some smiles from Teesh-Maguire when the victims names were read, but you're right: not much from either side. This was only one hurdle. There's still so much work to do. It won't be over for a looooong time, so I bet they were trying to keep their cool.
by Kels7/20/2015 5:33:41 PM
@Della: I thought it was odd that Ms. Nelson wanted to discuss reading something to the jury if he was found guilty and the Judge had to tell her the request was premature! So she sat down to wait for the verdict. It's like they knew he would be found guilty.
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:33:52 PM
@Della... that's because the Judge told everyone in the court room that NO out burst or reactions were allowed
by LG7/20/2015 5:33:56 PM
What's JH reading?
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:34:01 PM
It's weird to see Higgs at the front table. Notsomuch Ms. Brady, just Higgs.
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:34:02 PM
Is Mr Orman saying elecution or alacution? I am not familiar with alacution.
by DocJ7/20/2015 5:39:04 PM
I noticed right after the first name was announced with the verdict the younger detective (Orman twin) touched the leg of the older detective (they sat at the PT's back table) and he smiled at him as a nonverbal elation at the guilty of first degree murder. I can't imagine the emotions the victims and survivors felt Thursday night. Didn't hear any outbursts. Don't think I could do that.
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:42:43 PM
Someone look up and post "alacution". Never heard of it.
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:42:49 PM
@DocJ, allocution: the direct address between the judge and the convicted defendant prior to sentencing (this will be phase 2 and 3, as he just said allocution in phase 1 isn't necessary). During the address, the judge speaks directly to the defendant and asks if the defendant has anything to add prior to hearing the sentence. The defendant then answers the judge and may say anything in an effort to lessen the severity of the sentence, such as an apology, an offering of remorse, or an explanation of the motivations that drove the defendant's criminal actions.
by Kels7/20/2015 5:42:51 PM
sounds like allocation
by okx7/20/2015 5:42:55 PM
An allocution or allocutus is a formal statement made to the court by the defendant who has been found guilty, prior to being sentenced. It is part of the criminal procedure in some common law jurisdictions.
An allocution, in mitigation,[clarify] allows the defendant to explain why the sentence should be lenient.
In plea bargains, an allocution may be required of the defendant; the defendant explicitly admits specifically and in detail to what he or she did and for what reason, in exchange for a reduced sentence. In principle, it removes any doubt as to the exact nature of the defendant's guilt in the matter.
The term "allocution" is used generally only in jurisdictions in the United States, though there are vaguely similar processes in other common law countries. In many other jurisdictions it is for the defense lawyer to mitigate on his client's behalf, and the defendant himself will rarely have the opportunity to speak. The right of victims to speak at sentencing is also sometimes referred to as allocution.
by NT87/20/2015 5:42:56 PM
Thanks! @Kels @NT
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:47:38 PM
Judge needs to find out what it means.
by okx7/20/2015 5:47:39 PM
Ms. Higgs kept staring at the jury with a weird smile as the jury entered for the verdict and she kept doing it after the verdict. That was weird.
by Kristle7/20/2015 5:48:41 PM
The judge seems done with Nelson.
by Suzanne7/20/2015 5:55:11 PM
You're welcome, @Kristle! I'm glad we're all back today.
by Kels7/20/2015 5:55:12 PM
DT just needs to give up
by NT87/20/2015 5:55:58 PM
Sad, sad. Death penalty, what a concept for any civil or moral society, esp. U.S. citizen who has severe mental illness. I weep for the victims of the act, and the defendant and his family too. this is harder to watch than the trial, because eventually JH door to the world will be closed before more is known about his condition. Amesty International is so important in educationing the world on the tragedy of sanctioned govt. killing of its civilians that are mentally ill.
by okx7/20/2015 6:00:27 PM
The jury isn't in today, correct?
by Niki C.7/20/2015 6:00:36 PM
Yes lol the Judge has had enough of Nelson!
by Kristle7/20/2015 6:00:37 PM
DT has to do all of this as it will effect appeals down the road
by LG7/20/2015 6:00:38 PM
It's been a long wait till we all got back together :)
by Kristle7/20/2015 6:00:40 PM
JH is memorizing the paper he's reading. He is too fixed on it.