Aurora movie theater shooting trial: June 24 hearings

Attorneys will gather on Wednesday morning for a hearing outside the presence of the jury.

3rd & 7 37yd

JH can't get out of his chains but it is good that police officers are there

by Tjq 6/24/2015 5:02:11 PM
Oh please Nelson, He stated to the shirinks that he knew it was wrong,

by NT8 6/24/2015 5:02:12 PM
Judge is going to think on the defense 2nd paragraph for this instruction. no ruling today

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:03:47 PM
@Tammy it's like what are the defense going to present? A bunch of lies

by Tjq 6/24/2015 5:03:49 PM
Next is #19: "Informational instruction" about NGRI commitment of defendant

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:04:07 PM
Defense version was titled "informational instruction on commitment procedure"

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:04:45 PM
Tjq, I do believe they have an uphill battle. That being said, they have their own experts and jurors may listen to them. Can't really imagine who else they could bring...guards from the jail when he flipped out months after the event...but who else could help their case?

by Tammy Garrison 6/24/2015 5:06:30 PM
Defense argues that the standard instruction doesn't "convey just how difficult it is and what the procedures are for someone to be released from custody following a finding of NGRI"

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:07:04 PM
Spengler alludes to the video they're going to show of the defendant in jail falling

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:08:09 PM
and the smoke and mirrors begins for the DT.

by NT8 6/24/2015 5:08:29 PM
@Tammy if I were in JH situation I would flip out too.

by Tjq 6/24/2015 5:08:30 PM
Judge says this is the only instruction for informational purposes only that he is aware of

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:09:19 PM
Judge explaining how the jury was already taught this information

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:12:56 PM
Judge doesn't believe he has the authority to change this, but also doesn't share the concerns expressed by defense

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:14:17 PM
Makes it clear that the court makes the final determination that someone found NGRI can be released

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:14:59 PM
No judge can argue with a previous supreme court ruling.

by NT8 6/24/2015 5:16:45 PM
I don't see how the DT is going to provide witnesses that can tell the truth without stating opinions

by Tjq 6/24/2015 5:16:46 PM
Defense asking that the instruction reference CMHIP, where gunman would be committed if found NGRI

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:17:11 PM
Prosecution objects to adding the word "secure" before hospitalization

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:17:53 PM
Is this lasting all day?

by Tjq 6/24/2015 5:18:54 PM
@Tjq: I wish I knew

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:18:57 PM
It seems like even the judge has a pretty good idea that JH will be found NGRI . He's really satisfying the DT's concerns about the jury understanding JH will stay hospitalized upon such verdict .

by stacy cody 6/24/2015 5:19:51 PM
stacy, it ain't over til it's over. These are just a part of the instructions to the jury.

by Tammy Garrison 6/24/2015 5:22:37 PM
@stay I hope that isn't the case

by Tjq 6/24/2015 5:22:38 PM
Honestly , I didn't even think this was going to go to trial at all. I think a lot of people were surprised about that.

by stacy cody 6/24/2015 5:22:38 PM
Going to take a break

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:22:51 PM
We'll come on in a sec

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:23:29 PM
He was sane. A insane person could not plan what he did and how he planned so carefully

by Tjq 6/24/2015 5:38:24 PM
Love the tie, Phil.

by Tammy Garrison 6/24/2015 5:38:25 PM
What's with Arapahoe County? What have you got in the water there?

by Tammy Garrison edited by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:39:17 PM
I still can't believe there is even a trial. He is guilty and even said that he knew it was wrong

by Sheri Reining 6/24/2015 5:39:53 PM
Phil, I love your calm yet interesting delivery style. You also do a great job of explaining everything in a way that makes sense. Thank you for what you do!

by Lori Butterfield 6/24/2015 5:41:39 PM
Thanks Phil. My spelling is awful.

by Tammy Garrison 6/24/2015 5:41:42 PM
@tjq they have discussed that.. the planning and everything were supposedly part of the psychotic break. leading up to the event. the whole thing was a 'mission.'

by doggett 6/24/2015 5:41:43 PM
I agree he is sick but he knows the difference between right and wrong. so frustrating to spend all this money when he is guilty!

by Sheri Reining 6/24/2015 5:41:44 PM
@LoriButterfield: Very kind!

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:41:55 PM
They have NO defense!!

by Sheri Reining 6/24/2015 5:42:49 PM
Judge resumes with discussion of that instruction

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:43:03 PM
oh Nutz the buffering monster has returned

by NT8 6/24/2015 5:43:30 PM
will 7news air the verdict live on TV when its decided?

by debitwo 6/24/2015 5:43:31 PM
Phil, obviously you wanted to pursue law as a second career.

by Tammy Garrison 6/24/2015 5:43:43 PM
okie got it back

by NT8 6/24/2015 5:43:44 PM
@debitwo: We're just starting to take that consideration. I'm not ready with a full plan yet

by Phil Tenser 6/24/2015 5:43:52 PM
@stacy--if JH is found not guilty by reason of insanity there is no guarantee whatsoever that he would be hospitalized for life. If he were eventually determined to be "cured" and "not a danger to himself or others", he would legally have to be released back into society.

by flip 6/24/2015 5:45:05 PM
thanks Phil :) and i second Lori's sentiment...great job!

by debitwo 6/24/2015 5:45:07 PM