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Aurora movie theater shooting trial day 33: Prosecution expected to call remaining victims
Day 33 in the Aurora movie theater shooting trial – People vs. James Eagan Holmes. In the next few days, prosecutors are expected to call the remaining victims who have not testified. During the course of the trial, prosecutors will argue that Holmes, the admitted gunman, was sane when he went into the midnight premiere of the Dark Knight Rises in an Aurora, Colo., movie theater and opened fire on the audience, killing 12 and wounding 70. His defense attorneys will try to spare Holmes’ life by arguing that he was insane. 7NEWS and TheDenverChannel.com will have gavel to gavel coverage of the trial starting at 8:15 a.m. (MST) everyday and ending around 5:30 p.m. (MST) Watch new live video on our YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/7NewsDenver/live Additional resources:LIVE VIDEO & BLOG: http://bit.ly/theatertrialTIMELINE of the case: http://bit.ly/theatertimelineJURY PROFILE: http://bit.ly/theaterjury CONTINUING COVERAGE: http://bit.ly/theatercoverage
Better watch anyone with the jh initials, John Hinckley and now this clown.
by NT86/17/2015 5:35:36 PM
CindyL I don't know where you are getting your statistics from but from my quick Google search crime in Australia is at an all time low! Also yes gun crimes do happen in other countries but my point is why not make it a lot more difficult to get guns and kill people. The rates in the US are much higher than in any European country or Australia and that is a solid fact. Just because you cannot eradicate gun crime completely why not reduce it significantly?
by Unique_19856/17/2015 5:35:45 PM
Tammy what is a grace consequence?
by oxk6/17/2015 5:35:50 PM
Higgs is a character. She will pause for like 5seconds before she says she doesn't have anything further.
by Kristle6/17/2015 5:35:57 PM
If found not guilty/insane He goes to a mental hospital where once they feel he is ok He will be released back into society. Like John Hinkley.
by Abrandt6/17/2015 5:36:01 PM
I definitely feel conflicted about the death penalty, I just don't want JH to ever ever walk the streets. I don't trust if he goes to a mental institute that he wouldn't been on the streets at some point because the doctor says he is ok now. Look at John Hinckley Jr.
by Suzanne6/17/2015 5:36:08 PM
litprof, he used school grant money
by Tammy Garrison6/17/2015 5:36:13 PM
@Tammy they prove he bought the weapons and gear as well as is sane enough to pay his card and do business normally
by Abrandt6/17/2015 5:36:15 PM
Prosecution calls Cary Ihme, expert on email system at CU.
by anica.padilla6/17/2015 5:40:16 PM
@Tammy: IMO these bank records show sanity. He was making large purchases yet paying the credit card so it didn't exceed his credit limit. Note the timeframe too. One month before his massacre.
by Kristle6/17/2015 5:40:24 PM
@MJ Sorry I think I had a blondie moment
by Sally Mander6/17/2015 5:40:26 PM
If they put his death on pay per view, would you buy / watch it?
by BeaverBarber6/17/2015 5:40:29 PM
But kincos, that's what he wants. Anica, so that would be calculating and planning, thus sane? Oxk, sorry. That should have been grave consequences. What a slip.
by Tammy Garrison6/17/2015 5:40:40 PM
by litprof6/17/2015 5:40:42 PM
ORMANS on the Scene!
by Tired6/17/2015 5:40:43 PM
@NT: "and now this clown." That's funny!!
by FMM6/17/2015 5:40:46 PM
Can someone methodically plan and be insane? That's what the DT is going to have to answer because so far I haven't heard anything that says you can.
by NH6/17/2015 5:40:54 PM
@NH: I believe the judge said the two are not mutually exclusive very early in the trial. I'm looking for the reference...
by anica.padilla6/17/2015 5:44:25 PM
@klincos it's not less expensive to be on death row in prison
by LG6/17/2015 5:44:32 PM
@sally no worries i get those all the time :)
by MJ6/17/2015 5:44:34 PM
NH, I though psych's had testified that a mentally ill person could.
by Tammy Garrison6/17/2015 5:44:37 PM
@BeaverBarber - Yes I would.
by rod6/17/2015 5:44:41 PM
@nh watch opening arguments.
by blue6/17/2015 5:44:42 PM
Here we go. Can't remember for sure. Were these emails to ex-girlfriend, Dr Fenton, both or somebody else?
by Tammy Garrison6/17/2015 5:44:45 PM
hum.....not quite as funny as I thought. I was thinking of John Wayne Gacy. Now that would have been funny.
by FMM6/17/2015 5:44:46 PM
I think that people like Holmes need to be permanently removed from living existence so that they will not be able to continue to harm society and cause continuing pain to his victims. Nothing but death is permanent. After the death penalty was briefly overturned in California, Charles Manson's death sentence sentence was changed to life with the possibility of parole. Same with Tex Watson. So Manson, who actually enjoys prison life, has been able to reach out to his supporters and continue to torture society with his "teachings". Watson, who got married to some idiot after his death penalty was changed to life with possibility of parole, fathered several children from conjugal visits and still hopes to be released by the Parole Board. To keep these scum in prison, victims' shattered family members need to keep attending parole hearings to give impact statements...talk about reliving the pain. This has been unrelenting since Manson and his murderous followers were jailed in 1970. If Holmes gets "life without parole", there is nothing to say that his sentence may not be overturned or significantly altered by court decisions in the future. If he is successfully executed for his crime would at least be a permanent and lasting removal of him from society.
by flip6/17/2015 5:47:46 PM
One again Spengler wants to approach. The jury really deserves to hear. How can they make a decision when so much is unavailable?
by Suzanne6/17/2015 5:47:50 PM
I say we change the law! When you're caught red handed in any crime, you are immediately whisked away in handcuffs and taken before a judge. No need for jury, no need to put the victims thru any litigation, just sentence and be done. I would say this murderer was caught red handed.
by Resa6/17/2015 5:47:58 PM
John Hinckley technically did not kill anyone. His victims lived very long lives after the shooting. He was not a mass murderer, as much as a bad shot. Jes saying...
by mama d6/17/2015 5:48:03 PM
It will be interesting if the PT objects and ask to approach as much as the DT does.
by Suzanne6/17/2015 5:48:04 PM
ive been thinking more about Fenton's testimony- now that it has been a day (almost) how do you all feel about her testimony? do you think she should have done more and if so exactly what would you have done differently? do you think she hurt the DT position?
by chess6/17/2015 5:48:25 PM
Resa, that pretty much would have happened if the death penalty had been taken off the table.
by Tammy Garrison6/17/2015 5:51:13 PM
Got an appointment; catchup later. They're breaking for lunch soon though I think.
by Kristle6/17/2015 5:51:15 PM
So I was just getting caught up and can't believe the news about the jury that was released today... gezz's what was she thinking that she could not be honest with knowing a witness!!
by LG6/17/2015 5:56:57 PM
@flip - I tend to agree with you with one exception. However the death penalty is carried out, preserve the brain so we can learn if there is something that we can mitigate by brain scan baselines. If we can find something that is causing this, maybe we can "cure" it.
by Niki C6/17/2015 5:57:09 PM
For about the third'ish time, I watched a Frontline episode on solitary confinement. IMO the only person who says they want solitary, has never experienced it. They showed a marked decline in all prisoners who were solitary (at least one stated he'd be fine with it and quickly declined in his mental state.) It makes the crazy go even crazier. Tossing feces, cutting themselves. It's quite literally mind torture. There is no rehabbing, if that's the goal. Prisons are trying to get away from segregation, but it's nearly impossible when they kill other prisoners or guards. Holmes would be in a living Hell if he were on 24/7 segregation with all the other nutsos on his block. They literally drive each other (even more) insane and get people to kill (or try to) themselves. It's not that they don't "deserve" that torture for being murderers, but it appears to be Hell on Earth, literally.
by McGruber6/17/2015 5:57:36 PM
@chess I don't know if she could of done anything different. I think if that notebook would not of sat in mailroom I think maybe this would of not happened
by Dkf6/17/2015 5:57:39 PM
He's not insane right now so "restoring" him back to sanity isn't the issue. He's competent to participate in his trial. I cannot imagine ant
by Julie6/17/2015 5:57:47 PM
@CHESS i would like to have known a bit more about the sessions and if she had given him any tools to use to help with his thoughts and anxiety. i wish one of the jurors would have asked a question regarding if she had asked JH to write down his thoughts or journal at all...
by FRIPPO6/17/2015 5:57:55 PM
@chess I think she cast a lot of doubt into the case, in my opinion her testimony shows that JH was pretty unstable and possibly delusional and paranoid. I do think she should have done more rather than just medicating him and found out what the route cause of his thinking was. Especially when she said that he didn't answer her question on whether he had a plan. Major red flag surely.
by Unique_19856/17/2015 5:58:07 PM
Oh Lord let's not make this into a gun law debate.
by Julie6/17/2015 5:58:17 PM
@Tammy - not questioning mentally ill. I think there's little doubt. But a mentally ill person can know right vs. wrong. So far it seems to me the claim is JH was so beyond mentally ill to the point of insanity. I'm not sure I believe insane people can METHODICALLY plantlike this on so many levels. DT will have to prove they can.
by NH6/17/2015 5:58:32 PM
Chess. I think she hurt the DT.
by Julie6/17/2015 5:58:35 PM
I just have to say that Bonnie Kate is the most adorble thing ever. She seems like such a sweet person. I saw a video on the interet her boyfriend made of his process of proposing to her after the shooting (not sure how much after) and it is easy to see why he is so in love with her.
by Paige6/17/2015 5:58:42 PM
@mama d, There is discussion about charging him with murder over Brady now, The Dr;s said he died from the gunshot injuries.