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Aurora movie theater shooting trial day 39: Defense may introduce new jail video
Aurora movie theater shooting trial day 39: The defense may introduce new jail video.
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@Anica weren't the delay of doing the sanity evaluations due to the State not excepting a guilty plea by reasons of insanity? -
@LG: Yes, I believe they had to wait for the NGBRI plea. -
Prosecution has to prove sanity under Colorado law. Defense doesn't have to do anything other than create "reasonable doubt". Their approach may look thin and lame--which it is--but taken together, they hope all of this testimony may cause at least one juror to have "reasonable doubt" about JH's sanity.
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Ya know once I was caught in a bear trap, I ate my own arm off, Luckily it grew back, so yeah I can believe that story..... Oh Please.
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Im wondering what the side effects of these on a sane person would be and how many of these *hundreds* of psychotic patients had only 1 or 2 psychotic breaks with no other indications...
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@Flip thank you I know what PT has to do just was trying to share why the delay in the reason's none of the sanity evaluations were done right away as some of the comments were that people didn't understand why the 2 year delay!
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IMO, I think they gave him too many meds at too high of a dose too quickly. It's amazing what different meds can do to different people. Holmes didn't like the side effects that the meds that Dr. Fenton prescribed, those were baby tylenol in comparison. Seems as if he never really took meds/drugs before he found his way into his own personal rat cage.
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Had to leave for awhile. Is this doctor also a expert witness??
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Isn't it a little odd, that this is the first we are hearing about "hearing voices" when all the other docs said he indicated he did NOT hear voices? Am I missing something? -
@Flip, Good point... not being on the jury, my bias is showing, but all the DT has to do is just make one juror have an ounce of doubt... Wish the DT had the burden of proof in CO for insanity..
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Bit his arm for food, Can we see the photo doc? really? Oh Pulleeaaassse, who are you trying to foll fool here?
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Thank you @Clancy. (I don't always get the references!)
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pretty sure that JH was smart enough to know that if he didn't eat or drink - it would get him out of his cell for a while and bolster his case
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Well I would raise the BS flag here, but Iowa has said that flag along with the confederate Battle flag are now banned.
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How many mental breaks can you have within a short period of time? Like a mental break in July, then November, etc???
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FOUR physicians! in 3 days? Meds flipping back and forth....
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Here's the DT once again using the term psychotic instead of insane... perhaps it's because they haven't proven insanity? Notice how the DT is staying away from using the word Insane?
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Looks like this doc drank the DT kool-aid...he appears to take Holmes' word for it that he was hearing voices that wern't there. More likely the voices were there--"oh, look who we have in our hospital today..." "....uggh, think could we call in a veterinarian on consulting basis?" "...afraid not, vermin this horrible, they'd just put him down"...."yes, so???"
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Ok, this dr is very knowledgable and informative. However...what does any of this have to do whatsoever with the night of the shootings? Nothing, as far as I can tell. -
Everyone keeps comparing the DT Dr.s to Dr.Reid and criticizing them because they came up with a different opinion than Dr.Reid, saying that they spent little time with JH....but having multiple Dr.s having seen him at the time of the event saying he was psychotic is no less credible than one Dr. seeing him years after the fact, saying he was not.
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thing is - you can't prove that someone isn't hearing voices
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I'm getting my boots out for this... sorry just not buying JH's story
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Given the fact that he was in jail, being given meds that he had not taken before, is pre-disposed to mental illness, am I surprised the defendant had this psychotic episode? No, but this does not mean he was legally insane when he pulled the trigger the first time. I understand the defense has to do something, has to put on a defense, but again, this episode was months after the shooting, he was not acting like this from the time he was arrested until the time he was hospitalized, so I think the defense is grasping at straws.
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If JH goes to prison they better watch him like a hawk, he is so smart I could see him escaping.
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I hear voices, too. They're telling me to eat ice cream. Lots of chocolate chip ice cream. -
I'm with the idea that the shooting caused this psychotic break that even Dr. Reid says that he had. So here would be the linear progression: Woman dumps mentally ill man who then decides to kill all these people to show her he's special and hides it so no one will stop him and even attempts to detach himself which doesn't work and he's sane enough that what he's done caused a psychotic break. Have I missed anything?
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I think you got it Tammy. Perhaps you could mention that he didn't feel like applying himself in school, so he flunked himself out.
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Sooo the Sherrifs that wanted JH in the straight jacket not the Drs..did I hear that right
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@wp I agree 100% no matter where they send him he will try and manipulate his way OUT!!
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We need to bring Dr. Reid back. Isn't he on stand by? He isn't released from his subpoena yet!!
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Just not sold which way or the other, and the whole purpose of this is "beyond a reasonable doubt" and maybe Im missing something, but I dont see how theres absolutely, 100% no doubt.
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Question I'd like to hear: Doctor, if the jury finds this defendant "not guilty by reason of insanity" based on your testimony...can he live at your house after he is cured and released from the mental hospital?
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unless their brightness is all the way down, the computers used by tmg and that one detective both computer screens are blank and they are working yet pearson's screen has illumination
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poof -- delirium is gone - imagine that. Think if anything caused by chemical imbalance from deliberate not eating or drinking
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Orman "if I say something you don't understand, you will let me know, won't you?" He responds with "Thanks". Orman "That would be what we call a non responsive answer". Lol!!