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Aurora movie theater shooting trial day 41: Defense expected to call more doctors who treated James Holmes
Day 41 in the Aurora movie theater shooting trial – People vs. James Eagan Holmes. Today, the defense is expected to call more doctors who treated the gunman. During the course of the trial, prosecutors will argue that Holmes, the admitted gunman, was sane when he went into the midnight premiere of the Dark Knight Rises in an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater and opened fire on the audience, killing 12 and wounding 70. His defense attorneys will try to spare Holmes’ life by arguing that he was insane. 7NEWS and TheDenverChannel.com will have gavel to gavel coverage of the trial starting at 8:15 a.m. (MST) everyday and ending around 5:30 p.m. (MST) Watch new live video on our YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/7NewsDenver/live Additional resources:LIVE VIDEO & BLOG: http://bit.ly/theatertrialTIMELINE of the case: http://bit.ly/theatertimelineJURY PROFILE: http://bit.ly/theaterjury CONTINUING COVERAGE: http://bit.ly/theatercoverage
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I would think that pointing out he was being tested by other doctors at thsi same time would not be something the DT would want known - makes JH seem more normal if he isn't "fatigued" from testing. A normal result or slow on these tests could be from medication or constant testing. A brilliant Holmes is someone who can plan. A normal one might just be mentally ill. -
If Holmes goes to a mental hospital will he go to the state mental health hospital in Pueblo? I also wonder how he would be evaluated and what criterion would need to be met to have a Dr ever let him out into the public.
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I really don't find this interview very enlightening, seriously. Doesn't have much effect on his sanity, in my opinion.
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It's obvious anyone who could plan this incident and carry it out, would have to be extremely mentally ill, however, people with very high IQ generally do have unstable mental capacities, look at some of the famous artists in the world, a lot of them were mentally ill, but highly intelligent.
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He's passing all these tests, by enlarge, with a high functioning ability. So is he a high functioning schizoid personality disorder murder?
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The jury has exited the court room. Judge Samour has called a recess for lunch until 1:55 p.m. -
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Question: Does the timing of the Wikipedia searches vs the conversations with doctors have any significant impact, to your thinking?
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I wonder if PT has made strategic error. Most people believe (wrongly) that psychotic people are more likely to commit violence. The PT is following DT into argument about whether or not Holmes was psychotic or had schizophrenia. So the jury decides was he sick? If yes, then NGBRI. And it is hard to disagree that he is a sick person. Instead the PT should sidestep the whole issue of was he sick and just agree that yes, he was sick. Then get all the experts to talk about the low percentage of sick people who commit violent acts. Make it very clear to the jury that being mentally ill, even psychotic or schizophrenia, does not mean he can't help but be violent. Instead of harping on forensic standard of insanity as a legal matter, they should focus on real life fact that most mentally ill people are not violent, so being mentally ill is not a blanket excuse for violent acts. I think PT is allowing the jury to forget this point. -
James Holmes intelligence was in the superior range, but scores of 130+ qualify as gifted. Regarding the jury learning his IQ was in the superior range, it does nothing. In order to be in the doctoral program in neuroscience, he already had to be very smart.
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nope, no studies have been created.... so why doesn't pt and city/county police create their own guilt/innocence scale.
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@ V -- criminal law is typically a matter of state law. Only minor ordinances tend to be handled on the local level. If each municipality had its own rule, it would be difficult for citizens of the state to know what was legal and illegal in each town.
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can you imagine the parents of the victims, listening to all of this for months… my heart breaks
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Dr. Manguso met with the gunman for 6 hours and 15 minutes.
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I was going to say most of Boulder'its are like that non-groomers :)
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Oh, great. With the comment about grooming and hygiene, the DT will surely bring up the issue about how the one office said he smelled really bad at the time of arrest...
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Dr. Manguso said she felt the gunman "was holding back to some degree."
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Dr. Manguso: "Since being incarcerated he gained 30 pounds." - Quote
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Gonna have to bring more Battleships out of Mothballs soon.....
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Great witness. Articulate, explains things well, not combative, just sticks to the facts.
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Missed a lot due to the problems with the feed earlier. Who is this lady and when was she with JH?
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She sure is treading lightly about his auditory hallucinations....IMO.
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Dr. Manguso says again that she believes the gunman was "under reporting some of his issues.' - Quote
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Dr. Manguso said the gunman was afraid his thoughts were being broadcast and everyone could hear them. He was also concerned he had a mission others wouldn't understand.
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I really wish King would get to the point, if there is one...this doctor could be helpful but he better get there soon before the jury shuts down...tests, blah blah blah...grooming, blah blah blah....under reporting blah blah blah
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interesting that dr manguso said their role was limited & that they left the more in dept stuff to dr metzner (1st court appointed dr) who said that jh was sane. so is all her testimony not relevant? -
This woman is NOT helping the Defense at all.. JH sounds sane to me. He could do everything she asked
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Gratuitous help for the defense from the witness...Holmes is probably a lot more clever than most of the murderers this doctor works with.
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JH denied having a special mission? That's different. -
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What was the time frame in terms of the event, when she tested him, when Dr. Metzner tested him and Dr. Reid evaluated him? -
The "long answer to a short question" answere my earlier question about whether diagnoses change over time.
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IMO the medical field is diverse on the issue of psychosis.....the PT had the SME of all SME's, Dr. Reid, saying he wasn't insane at the time of the murders and the DT has many doctors saying he was!! She's even saying clinical staff come to a diagnosis over "time" so couldn't that raise reasonable doubt?
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Is King working for the DT or the PT? He certainly acts like he is trying to make JH sound sane
