Aurora movie theater shooting trial day 45: Cross-examination of schizophrenia expert continues

Day 2 in the Aurora movie theater shooting trial – People vs. James Eagan Holmes. Today, prosecutors open their case calling witnesses _____? During the course of the trial, prosecutors will argue that Holmes, the admitted gunman, was sane when he went into the midnight premiere of the Dark Knight Rises in an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater and opened fire on the audience, killing 12 and wounding 70. His defense attorneys will try to spare Holmes’ life by arguing that he was insane. 7NEWS and TheDenverChannel.com will have gavel to gavel coverage of the trial starting at 8:15 a.m. (MST) everyday and ending around 5:30 p.m. (MST) Watch new live video on our YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/7NewsDenver/live Additional resources:LIVE VIDEO & BLOG: http://bit.ly/theatertrialTIMELINE of the case: http://bit.ly/theatertimelineJURY PROFILE: http://bit.ly/theaterjury CONTINUING COVERAGE: http://bit.ly/theatercoverage

3rd & 7 37yd

Once Mr. King has a chance to re-direct, I am betting he will ask Dr. Gur after all the inconsistencies in her report, all the questions raised by the prosecution, whether any of that changes her opinion of the defendant's sanity. I am also betting she says no.

by BernerMom 7/8/2015 7:36:53 PM
Wow! Great poll!

by Kristle 7/8/2015 7:36:58 PM
hmm Orman was shaking his head during the judges mention of JH possibly being under the influence of drugs during video..

by Della (Me) 7/8/2015 7:37:10 PM
Who here has read Dr. Gur's report?

by Patty Scabby 7/8/2015 7:37:13 PM
Rob, I would, because without some documentation in black and white - notes or an accurate report and you can't know, even as a professional and not as an attorney, if she did a quality exam, because she doesn't adequately document it.

by Tammy Garrison 7/8/2015 7:51:48 PM
I have asked this question before. CAN THE DEFENDANT HAVE ANY WATER/DRINK during court proceedings?

by Amy 7/8/2015 7:51:58 PM
Don't really like the words "taking her down", but that's the gist of what's going on.

by Tammy Garrison 7/8/2015 7:52:02 PM
I have not read Dr Gur's report, so I answered "other" in the poll.

by Alison 7/8/2015 7:52:06 PM
A month or so ago I read an article in the Denver Post that stated that 90% of jurys side with expert witnesses that were hired by the court. Thought that was interesting.

by Ann 7/8/2015 7:52:11 PM
@BernerMom I suspect you are completely correct and I can only imagine the response of everyone if she were to say- "Well, you know, I think I have changed my mind." ORDER IN THE COURT hammer hammer hammer.

by 5W 7/8/2015 7:52:21 PM
In reading the comments, it seems that King should ask Dr. Gur questions in order to clarify why her report wasn't as detailed. That's an interesting comment about knowing the sun came up Tuesday but didn't write it down. IMO King doesn't seem to me to "care" about asking those types of questions. He seems to be frustrated with her as much as AC!

by Kristle 7/8/2015 7:52:42 PM
Sounds like the video won't be admitted

by Tjq 7/8/2015 7:52:46 PM
great lengths to explain this. No way the DT will rest today

by JG 7/8/2015 7:52:47 PM
Judge Samour: Wise man. This discussion of the DT video from November, 2012 is extremely interesting. And his response to the motion to introduce it as evidence is very thoughtful.

by flip 7/8/2015 7:52:51 PM
IMO, Dr. Gur's report was not comprehensive because she did not notate all of the things used to support her diagnosis. I believe she is a highly qualified professional, who probably should not be called as an expert witness in a case like this. I don't necessarily think GB is "taking her down," however I do believe he has damaged her credibility.

by psc 7/8/2015 7:53:03 PM
- Judge's Order
The Nov. 2012 video of the gunman at Denver Health will not be admitted. Defense requests opportunity to respond after court today or before court tomorrow.

by anica.padilla 7/8/2015 7:54:16 PM
Is Dr. Gur's report available to the pubic?

by FPsych 7/8/2015 7:54:27 PM
Dr. Gur did a great job in putting her report together for the defense. She knew what kind of questions she was going to asked and what kind of behavior to be on the look out for. I don't believe she went into the interviews with the defendant without bias. Therefore, she is very defensive of anyone going against her "expertise". She believes she is infallible in her beliefs and does not like being challenged.

by TLR 7/8/2015 7:54:31 PM
So what's the final answer?? Video a go-go or a no-no?

by jward12 7/8/2015 7:54:35 PM
I just got back from lunch. What is happening? I see Dr. Gur is absent.

by Nadine 7/8/2015 7:54:38 PM
"I'm sorry, your time's run out! What do we have for the losers, judge?" Quote from a famous movie.

by Nicko 7/8/2015 7:54:42 PM
In other words, the defense set up the whole interview and prepared the defendant to say what they wanted, out of the presence of any other witnesses.

by Dave Campbell 7/8/2015 7:54:47 PM
- Quote
Dr. Gur: "He knew what he was doing was illegal… but he did not have the capacity to distinguish between right and wrong."

by anica.padilla 7/8/2015 8:20:59 PM
Dr. Gur just said He knew the act was illegal so how can He not know it's wrong?

by Abrandt 7/8/2015 8:29:02 PM
It's so telling IMO when JH swivels his chair that his team is losing.

by Kristle 7/8/2015 8:29:03 PM
If you know something is "illegal" how do you not know it is wrong?

by MyraJ 7/8/2015 8:29:04 PM
pulling teeth....

by flip 7/8/2015 8:29:06 PM
Dr. Gur makes it sound that just because you go into a theater and shoot people you have to be insane.

by Humble Pride 7/8/2015 8:29:09 PM
That's not what he asked her.

by Tammy Garrison 7/8/2015 8:29:11 PM
OMG, Forget about getting her a life jacket....get me one!

by Nicko 7/8/2015 8:29:13 PM
Bam! AC got it! He was protecting himself from police.

by Jennifer 7/8/2015 8:29:17 PM
Plato said, Good people don't need laws to tell them to act responsibily...and bad people will find a way around the laws.

by wp 7/8/2015 8:29:28 PM
Doesn't look like the Defense will rest today.

by CindyL 7/8/2015 8:29:29 PM
Think the video was a shady attempt to color the facts of the case

by Mandi 7/8/2015 8:29:33 PM
Anyone else noticing how jumpy/quick to his feet Orman is today? He must've eaten his Wheaties!

by jward12 7/8/2015 8:29:39 PM
Do we think the DT knew this video was a long-shot? I mean it sounds a little ridiculous that it would even be considered to be shown.

by Della (Me) 7/8/2015 8:29:42 PM
@Rob- and if you were testifying as to whether or not weather had anything to do with a plane crash- would you not be expected to have notes or other specific information recording the state of the weather on that day in Jan that I proposed? Would relying on your memory be acceptable? I think the same is true here- the jury needs to be given the opportunity to see as much of the raw data as possible, not just Dr. Gur's interpretation of what JH meant when he said something. I have listened carefully and may well have interpreted some of his statements in very different ways than she did.

by 5W 7/8/2015 8:29:51 PM
and it's time for another Beatdown for the DT.

by NT8 7/8/2015 8:29:54 PM
Well put @psc and I agree

by Kristle 7/8/2015 8:29:57 PM
Lynn, I like and appreciate your comments!

by LK 7/8/2015 8:30:25 PM
Is that movie quote from the Jim Carrey movie "Liar, Liar"?

by Kristle 7/8/2015 8:30:27 PM
I missed it. What WAS the final answer on the video? Allowed or not?

by FMM 7/8/2015 8:30:32 PM
interesting

by Tammy Garrison 7/8/2015 8:30:35 PM
@Amy I'm almost positive that the defendant may certainly have a drink during court proceedings. I've seen Spengler pour him a cup of water, then pour herself a cup. Not sure I've ever seen him drink from it. That would require far too much movement on his part and he might wind up looking "normal".

by Della (Me) 7/8/2015 8:30:41 PM
Much of this testimony suggests that Dr. Gur confabulates Holmes' "answers" quite a bit. This cannot play well to the jury---they've already seen examples of really good forensic psychiatry, especially Dr. Reid.

by flip 7/8/2015 8:30:51 PM