Movie theater shooting trial day 12: Testimony about evidence found in trash will resume

When testimony begins Wednesday morning in the trial of James Holmes, a former FBI agent will return to the stand to discuss the evidence collected from trash outside the apartment building at 1690 Paris St.

3rd & 7 37yd

Wondering if they have or will go over internet searches on his computer. I know there was testimony to dating sites, but was thinking about searches such as how to shoot a specific type of gun effectively or watching gas mask videos "how to put it on/use it ", etc.

by Kristle 5/13/2015 8:54:12 PM
I know that I gain weight when under stress. Interesting JH has gained weight
leading up to this trial. It seems JH never had a weight problem before.

by Amy 5/13/2015 8:54:14 PM
I thought I had heard, that DT wanted to plead guilty without the death penalty and the PT didn't want that. Does anyone know if that is true?

by Suzanne 5/13/2015 8:56:08 PM
He's also sitting in jail.

by jj1114 5/13/2015 8:56:11 PM
I think JH has been wearing a great big 'ole pair of crazy pants for sometime, I just do not know if that equates to insanity or not. We will see what the psych's have to say.

by DocJ 5/13/2015 8:56:12 PM
@Amy: His medications have probably caused him to put on a little weight.

by S33 5/13/2015 8:56:13 PM
@Suzanne: It was referenced in documents once upon a time. The prosecution said many of the victims wanted them to pursue the death penalty

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 8:56:47 PM
@S33, so this all comes down to psych's?

by RWalk 5/13/2015 8:57:06 PM
Maria Pettolina: shotgun wadding found in stadium seating

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 8:58:29 PM
Pretty much an "our psychiatrist is better than your psychiatrist" showdown.

by DocJ 5/13/2015 8:58:32 PM
A person with a developing serious mental illness isn't always acting strangely or weirdly ALL the time, which is what George seems to think! Professor John Nash got through his University years with developing Paranoid Schizophrenia. What we know about the psychiatric treatment Holmes had prior to the shooting so far suggests to me serious mental illness. There's an interview on Youtube about John Nash's son who also has schizophrenia and he talks about seeing 'shadows', just like Holmes does in the videos the Defence showed of him in hospital. Holmes' psychosis became increasingly worse as the date of the shooting approached.

by BraddersCentric 5/13/2015 8:58:36 PM
@RWalk: I'm just saying that you can't determine someone's mental state from sharing a few words with them every now and then.

by S33 5/13/2015 8:58:38 PM
@S33: True -- JH medications is a possibility.

by Amy 5/13/2015 8:58:39 PM
NGRI because his family history has schizophrenic behavior on mother and fathers side plus they're hoping to show a "deteriorating mental state" and the act itself is insane to a sane person. This will be a tough one for the jury!

by Kristle 5/13/2015 8:58:43 PM
@Joey, Navy Police, and was in combat down in Panama during the invasion, Also plenty of experience in the Persian Gulf, and the Adriatic Sea, doing Boardings, and searches. Also include counter Narcotic patrols boardings and searches. Also worked for TSA for 7 years. Navy Police in Millington, Tennessee, and no not shore patrol, actual policing.

by NT8 5/13/2015 8:58:45 PM
Good afternoon. I've been watching the trial from the beginning, but only lurking in chat. Does anyone have a list of the witnesses already called? I've been keeping a list myself on Google Docs, but would like to double check it. If anyone is interested in seeing my list, I'd be happy to share a link.

by Rheba 5/13/2015 8:59:02 PM
@Joey, Urinalyisis cooridinator while ship board, read Heavy on evidence Chain of custody.

by NT8 5/13/2015 8:59:50 PM
Maria Pettolina: Says she collected the spent Clear Out canister from the stadium seating. Says it was found at Row 9, Seat 4

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:00:02 PM
@Rheba Ask Marshall7 for Denver 7

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:00:07 PM
@NT8: Marshall is out right now, but I'll ask him for tomorrow

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:00:22 PM
Thank you NT8 and Phil

by Rheba 5/13/2015 9:00:57 PM
Yes was thinking his weight gain makes him look more threatening instead of the skinnier frame he had at the time of the shooting. But he still has those bug eyes!

by Kristle 5/13/2015 9:00:59 PM
I wonder if anyone was hit with the canister.

by FMM 5/13/2015 9:01:28 PM
BEFORE: JH followed all traffic laws driving to the movie theater. AFTER: JH did NOT know how to follow the laws once he got to the movie theater.

by Amy 5/13/2015 9:01:31 PM
@Bradders, but how are you able to differentiate between a "show" by Holmes or whether he is actually insane?

by RWalk 5/13/2015 9:01:37 PM
@Phil, that should go to Rheba. Rheba, Marshall7 has been counting witnesses, I assume he is keeping track of names also.

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:02:07 PM
Hi Rheba... I have been keeping a list also, but I know my list is incomplete. I have also looked for a list on-line but have not found one.

by Sherrie H. 5/13/2015 9:03:05 PM
Maria Pettolina: Shotgun wadding is expelled with the firing of a shotgun, with the pellets, she explains for the jury

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:03:34 PM
@ Amy- The Defendant had no problem speaking clearly and coherently to the Police after the shooting. He knew His name, address and volunteered his bomb info. He was also clear and coherent when questioned by Detectives later.

by Abrandt 5/13/2015 9:03:51 PM
Maria Pettolina met with agent DeFrance, who arrived for FBI to record bullet hole evidence

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:04:34 PM
There is your pop corn answer.....

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:04:40 PM
@RWalk - That's for the jury to decide. We can't really know. Either way, he can't be allowed to walk around freely. The defense has stated that JH has the urge to kill still today.

by Angela Freeman 5/13/2015 9:04:42 PM
@Sherrie H If I'm allowed, here's a copy of my list. Maybe that will help. bit.ly

by Rheba 5/13/2015 9:05:25 PM
Prosecution should have asked what shotgun wadding was 10+ shotgun pictures ago!

by Kristle 5/13/2015 9:05:26 PM
@rheba, what is your current witness count?

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:05:29 PM
Another question. Who did James Holmes sit next to in the theater? Regardless of whether he knew the person to his right or left, it just seems like someone would have initiated some small talk, very much like when you're on an airplane. Thoughts? Did the individual sitting next to him survive? If so, will he/she be called as a witness?

by Nadine. 5/13/2015 9:05:35 PM
@Nadine.: I do not know if I've ever heard or read the answer to your questions

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:05:55 PM
I think we are very close to 90.

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:05:56 PM
@NT8 Current witness is 92

by Rheba 5/13/2015 9:06:04 PM
My biggest worry is if He is found not guilty by reason of insanity that He will be freed someday. John Hinkley is proof that insane criminals are not held forever in a mental hospital.

by Abrandt 5/13/2015 9:06:23 PM
@Abrandt: That is right! JH knew who his name and where he was.

by Amy 5/13/2015 9:06:25 PM
@NT8 that is definitely a list of credentials!! Thank you for your service!!

by Joey 5/13/2015 9:06:27 PM
Admitting more exhibits, 619-620: A (bullet) fragment near row 9 and another found row 11, seat 19

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:07:37 PM
@Nadine - It's possible that he didn't interact with anyone. I'm a long time sufferer of anxiety disorder. I never interact with people beside me in crowded places.

by Angela Freeman 5/13/2015 9:07:40 PM
@Amy: Do you think insane people don't know their name or something? Of course he knew who he was.

by S33 5/13/2015 9:07:42 PM