Movie theater shooting trial day 12: Testimony about evidence found in trash will resume

When testimony begins Wednesday morning in the trial of James Holmes, a former FBI agent will return to the stand to discuss the evidence collected from trash outside the apartment building at 1690 Paris St.

3rd & 7 37yd

The judge scolded attorneys this morning for not standing when addressing the court, who was he specifically addressing?

by Resa 5/13/2015 9:37:58 PM
@Joey-- I agree. It's very tense today!
@Abrandt-- Thank you!

by proph 5/13/2015 9:38:01 PM
@jj1114 I think people are being appropriate and posing serious questions while still respecting the rights of others who have a difference of opinion. Isn't that what this is all about? I'm learning from all of it.

by Saira 5/13/2015 9:38:02 PM
Jury returning after mid-afternoon recess. Maria Pettolina still on the stand

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:39:05 PM
Several mentions have been made about there being inappropriate comments here. I am confused as to what is inappropriate.

by jj1114 5/13/2015 9:39:46 PM
@jj1114: I'm trying to stick to our terms of service as they are described on our website.

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:40:02 PM
Maria Pettolina being handed new exhibits

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:40:12 PM
Legal question. Is the DA's office and the DT permitted to speak to anyone (like their family/friends) about the trial? what about the Judge?

by Nadine. 5/13/2015 9:40:41 PM
@Nadine Maybe we can ask that of our legal expert later

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:41:00 PM
@Phil That last bit was way below you all. As a matter of fact that really irritated me that you would show the witness with the speech impediment, However you did use him cussing. You are the moderator, and you ragged on the nicknames? Then you did that? SHAME ON YOU. And no I expect you will not show this comment.

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:41:08 PM
@NT8: I'll allow the comment because I do believe people should have a voice. We used this because it was RELEVANT and NEW to what occurred in court today. It is a decision that I stand by because it is important to the case. That was the basis of the decision

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:42:25 PM
@NT8 did he have that before the shooting or after?

by Joey 5/13/2015 9:42:27 PM
If I observed correctly, I think Katherine Spiegel was not standing-up when addressing the court.

by Amy 5/13/2015 9:42:29 PM
However, I do have a you tube Channel and I will express my feelings on it. You will not dodge me.

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:42:37 PM
Shotgun wadding is popcorn, lol.

by Kristle 5/13/2015 9:42:40 PM
I love and respect the Jury system. In the end, the power of judgment is to the people.

by Amy 5/13/2015 9:44:47 PM
I've heard that JH is shackled to the floor somehow. Is that correct? I don't see evidence of it but then we cannot see that much of him.

by Sue 5/13/2015 9:44:48 PM
@Sue: Yes, his restraints are supposed to be hidden from the jury

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:45:02 PM
@Nadine, when was dating a criminal defense attorney, I remember him telling me he was not permitted to discuss any part of the cases he was trying in court with me, or anyone.

by Liz 5/13/2015 9:45:06 PM
@Joey, What is your last reference too?

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:45:14 PM
Yep everyone is on edge if NT8 is getting frustrated. I am sorry NT8.

by Joey 5/13/2015 9:45:38 PM
Maria Pettolina explaining more impact evidence photos

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:46:23 PM
@Phil, what happens in the courtroom during breaks? Does James Holmes make any contact with his parents? Are they still here?

by AJS 5/13/2015 9:46:28 PM
@NT8 the boy with the speech impediment?

by Joey 5/13/2015 9:47:05 PM
Thanks, Phil. It seems every time he stands, he puts his hands in his pockets so I wondered if he was shackled at the waist.

by Sue 5/13/2015 9:47:07 PM
@AJS: Marshall has said that there is not contact, but I haven't been in there since this trial began. When I was there for the preliminary hearing, he entered and exited with each recess. That's not happening now

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:47:08 PM
- Objection
Another bench conference as evidence is being introduced

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:47:28 PM
S33: I'm not saying that he is NOT insane, that's for the doctors and the court to say, all I am saying is he is very cunning and would stop at nothing to keep himself out of prison and the death penalty.

by Kristle 5/13/2015 9:50:29 PM
@Joey, I am not Frustrated at all, However the attitude is set by the Moderator IMHO. For two weeks everything has been status Quo until today. Prior to today we were one happy group. What changed it? Only one person controls the comments. There has been no direct attacks upon other posters in 2 1/2 weeks. The group has policed itself just fine. Until today.

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:50:36 PM
@NT8. What was wrong with showing Gage's testimony again? he was just another witness that we saw today and that's what they do, they replay segments during break. SO, I don't see the problem?

by AK 5/13/2015 9:51:03 PM
I'm enjoying every minute of this trial. I'm glued to it. Don't let yourselves become upset by anything that they say or do, It's all part of the American Justice system. I'm very grateful that I have the opportunity to be able to observe.

by Jaclyn Green 5/13/2015 9:51:13 PM
@NT8: Nobody intended any offense. @Anica and I have taken turns moderating since day 1 and we are taking great pride in how AWESOMELY productive this is. In fact, during the recess, I was just bragging about that to our general manager

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:51:54 PM
@Kristle: It's your assumption that he would stop at nothing to keep himself out of prison and the death penalty. There is no proof that is the case.

by S33 5/13/2015 9:52:13 PM
@S33 there is not any proof YET.

by Joey 5/13/2015 9:53:04 PM
@Joey: And there may never be proof because that may not be the case at all.

by S33 5/13/2015 9:54:02 PM
@S33 right now everything is just an assumption until there is proof. Maybe the PT has something up their sleeve that we do not know about.

by Joey 5/13/2015 9:55:40 PM
Does the legal definition of insanity imply a break from reality?

by Sue 5/13/2015 9:55:45 PM
@AK I find it undignifying to that witness to show him struggling to get his words out, However Then the F bombs were played. I have no heartburn with the F bombs. However after being Chastized for nicknames of the lawyers that were used that was Deemed offensive by the moderator. Even after I sent him the link to where that nickname came from for Brady. The DENVER POST. What ever, Cannot wait for the next rotation now IMHO, and that is not just my Opinion.

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:55:58 PM
Long sidebar for discussion of evidence

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:56:52 PM
@Sue the inability to tell right from wrong

by jj1114 5/13/2015 9:57:26 PM
bet it is over Cumulative.

by NT8 5/13/2015 9:58:05 PM
Here's a story we did a while back about the insanity defense
Theater shooting jury asked to decide between sane or insane, not who did it
7NEWSThe movie theater shooting trial is essentially about whether the defendant was sane or insane at the time of the shooting.

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 9:58:23 PM
@Sue here is a link of the Colorado law of insanity
www.psychlawjournal.com

by Joey 5/13/2015 9:59:06 PM
@Sue, here's what I found as to the definition of insanity from a law website: "Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality, cannot conduct her/his affairs due to psychosis, or is subject to uncontrollable impulsive behavior."

by Liz 5/13/2015 9:59:07 PM
- Judge's Order
Objection sustained in part overruled in part. Judge gave instructions at the bench for upcoming questions

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:00:05 PM

Movie theater shooting trial day 12: Testimony about evidence found in trash will resume

When testimony begins Wednesday morning in the trial of James Holmes, a former FBI agent will return to the stand to discuss the evidence collected from trash outside the apartment building at 1690 Paris St.

Theater shooting jury asked to decide between sane or insane, not who did it