Movie theater shooting trial day 12: Testimony about evidence found in trash will resume

When testimony begins Wednesday morning in the trial of James Holmes, a former FBI agent will return to the stand to discuss the evidence collected from trash outside the apartment building at 1690 Paris St.

3rd & 7 37yd

@S33: nobody can prove what's going on inside his head, however the fact that he went thru painstaking detail to ensure that he didn't, in any way, get hurt in the massacre, shows his deliberate attempt to keep himself safe and also shows premeditation.

by Kristle 5/13/2015 10:00:08 PM
counting that as two, one for each.

by NT8 5/13/2015 10:01:04 PM
prosecution now admitting more photos

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:01:30 PM
@Kristle: Premeditation and planning does NOT equal sanity.

by S33 5/13/2015 10:01:30 PM
Maria Pettolina identifies impacts in row 8

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:02:54 PM
@S33: it doesn't equal insanity either.

by Kristle 5/13/2015 10:02:56 PM
There have been many men/women in history that have brilliant/genius minds that have proven to have mental illness.

by Jaclyn Green 5/13/2015 10:03:37 PM
@Kristie Pretty much all of the evidence goes to show that he intending on getting caught.

by jj1114 5/13/2015 10:03:37 PM
there is a fine line between Genius and Insanity......

by NT8 5/13/2015 10:04:41 PM
Prosecution admitting several more photos

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:04:42 PM
@NT8, How is that " undignifying"? That's how he speaks, he made the decision to get up on the witness stand and speak and there is absolutely nothing wrong with him. You're the only person right now that seems to have an issue with it and the only one that seems to think there is something wrong with it. It was a relevant clip because that's testimony we saw today so I really honestly do not see the issue with playing it again. Also never cared for the nicknames so

by AK 5/13/2015 10:05:20 PM
@Kristle: Of course it doesn't but with the way you worded it that's the way it sounded so I was just clarifying. If I misunderstood then that was my bad.

by S33 5/13/2015 10:05:51 PM
Thank you everyone for the insanity references and videos. Having lived with someone with schizophrenia gives me a different perspective than most so I'm trying to keep legal guidelines in mind.

by Sue 5/13/2015 10:05:54 PM
@jj: that goes without question. He never intended to go back to his apt unless he wanted to blow himself up. But with all that tactical gear maybe he would have been ok, lol.

by Kristle 5/13/2015 10:07:05 PM
@AK he did not make that decision he was supeoned.

by NT8 5/13/2015 10:07:31 PM
@NT8 Nonsense, there is no correlation between IQ and mental illness. They are mutually exclusive.

by Rheba 5/13/2015 10:07:33 PM
Prosecution admitting another round of evidence photos

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:07:56 PM
- Objection
403 objection to a photo

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:08:34 PM
- Judge's Order
Judge says overruled the objection, admits all evidence

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:09:31 PM
I think the post-shooting attitude/fantasy will come into play. He tried to blow up his apartment, yet had no clothes or enough $ to flee, and appeared to be slightly confused on why he was being held. It sure has me confused!

by DocJ 5/13/2015 10:09:34 PM
@Rheba, That comes from Oscar Levant.

by NT8 5/13/2015 10:10:03 PM
Maria Pettolina says impacts in these photos were row 8

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:10:05 PM
@Abrandt - Fenton stated in her paperwork that she felt Holmes was functioning at a psychotic level in March 2012 and that she felt he was heading into a 'frank psychotic disorder such as Schizophrenia'. So she did catch it! However, getting her supervisor involved, a Dr Feinstein - he seemed to basically say to Holmes 'We can't stop you'. Which isn't a wise thing to say to someone who is becoming or maybe already was psychotic. That was like giving him the green light to go ahead with his plan! Holmes wasn't put on a psych hold and there was no follow up as to what was happening with him. They just let him walk right off campus and that was it as far as they were concerned.

by BraddersCentric 5/13/2015 10:10:11 PM
@NT8 I'm pretty sure Teesch-Maguire said toward the beginning of this that they only have the witnesses that got back to them, which to me sounds like you don't HAVE to testify. I'm pretty sure they can't force you to.

by AK 5/13/2015 10:10:23 PM
Maria Pettolina being asked to mark row 8 seat 15

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:10:54 PM
Interesting that a grouping is developing on row 8... wonder what the next step is going to be that will connect to this. Maybe who was seated there?

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:11:43 PM
@NT8 I realize that, but it is still nonsense in this instance.

by Rheba 5/13/2015 10:11:45 PM
- Judge's Order
Judge overrules objection, admits evidence

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:12:48 PM
@AK Then how do you think the court applies to a witness? "I never volunteered to testify, You would be wrong. Must have a subpeona.

by NT8 5/13/2015 10:12:53 PM
@Phil: I would be interested in knowing if we here were the jury, how would we find the defendant thus far? Quilty or not guilty by reason of insanity? Maybe that could be a poll question?

by FMM 5/13/2015 10:12:58 PM
@FMM: Ok, I'll do that in a minute

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:13:05 PM
by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:13:30 PM
@Rheba, he a;so retracted that several years later.

by NT8 5/13/2015 10:13:36 PM
Maria Pettolina now marking row 8 seat 17 on the model

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:13:54 PM
@DocJ maybe he didn't intend on surviving?

by Saira 5/13/2015 10:15:39 PM
@Bradders But.. IF He was in such a bad state WHY did they let him walk away or was He still ok enough to be on an out patient client? I don't think they would have allowed him to walk away if He was in bad shape/out of reality.

by Abrandt 5/13/2015 10:15:47 PM
@NT8. Yeah, I have no idea what you're trying to say anymore.

by AK 5/13/2015 10:15:50 PM
- Objection
Another 403 objection, getting into a pattern here with each batch of photos

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:17:07 PM
- Judge's Order
Another overruled

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:17:22 PM
Oh dear America! Alot of work to do when it comes to understanding mental illness! I can't wait for the expert Doctor's testimony!

by BraddersCentric 5/13/2015 10:17:26 PM
@Phil Do we know if the doctors did any type of brain scans on James Holmes?

by Lisa Reid 5/13/2015 10:24:38 PM
@LisaReid: I don't know

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:24:43 PM
Sorry, walked away for a minute because I noticed the MASSIVE amount of tweets and support Gage Hankins is getting on Twitter. It is awesome to see

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 10:25:11 PM
Thanks Phil!

by Lisa Reid 5/13/2015 10:25:13 PM
It's up the lawyers and the parties who they choose to subpoena. Most often, lawyers will allow the witness to be "on call" or otherwise try to minimize the inconvenience.

by @NT8 and AK 5/13/2015 10:25:15 PM