Movie theater shooting trial day 12: Testimony about evidence found in trash will resume

When testimony begins Wednesday morning in the trial of James Holmes, a former FBI agent will return to the stand to discuss the evidence collected from trash outside the apartment building at 1690 Paris St.

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@S33 I don't have a doubt that he isn't mentally ill. I was just making an assumption as what is going through his mind. I could be wrong. But I don't believe that everyone who murders has a mental illness.

by Joey 5/13/2015 4:10:10 PM
@NH - Thanks, I didn't know that. =)

by Angela Freeman 5/13/2015 4:10:11 PM
Jury brought back in after (extra early) morning recess

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:10:23 PM
WOW, Samour must be reading comments on here from Yesterday!!!

by NT8 5/13/2015 4:10:24 PM
I noticed a lot on the defense side them not standing up to speak.

by Angela Freeman 5/13/2015 4:10:28 PM
@JJ I know but if you read up in Psychology. Henry Beecher is pretty much the first one to start the placebo effect because during WWII the medics were running out of morphine so he gave wounded soldiers a saline solution and about 40% of those soldiers said that "morphine" eased their pain. So again it depends on the person and their mentality. This is why doctors and scientists keep doing experiments with the placebos. Instead of saline they also use a sugar substance or distilled water.

by Joey 5/13/2015 4:10:35 PM
@NT8 why do you say that?

by Joey 5/13/2015 4:11:29 PM
@Joey My degree is in psychology, but thank you.

by jj1114 5/13/2015 4:11:29 PM
@Angela, I believe we were told that the judge would rather people speak clearly into the microphone than stand to address him.

by jj1114 5/13/2015 4:12:18 PM
Welcome. I am just stating facts. I also have psychology under my belt.

by Joey 5/13/2015 4:12:43 PM
Does anyone know why his attorneys do not speak to him? If he is competent to stand trial, he is competent enough to participate. It doesn't make sense to me that he doesn't say a word.

by Sue 5/13/2015 4:12:45 PM
@Joey, Samour just chastised the lawyers for not standing up to address him! That was a hot topic on here the last couple days.

by NT8 5/13/2015 4:12:46 PM
@JJ - I dunno. That may be so, but he just requested that people stand up when speaking.

by Angela Freeman 5/13/2015 4:13:12 PM
- New Witness
The people call William Sather, faculty member at CU school of medicine

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:13:36 PM
AC360 time!

by NT8 5/13/2015 4:13:37 PM
Sather: PhD, research science, runs a research lab

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:13:50 PM
@NT8 Oh ok!

by Joey 5/13/2015 4:14:35 PM
@Sue - He is not obligated to testify. As for other communications, I'm sure they speak a lot outside the courtroom.

by Angela Freeman 5/13/2015 4:14:36 PM
@Sue: Dan talks to James every now and then, but it's easily missed because it's usually short.

by S33 5/13/2015 4:14:37 PM
Sather: Is in pharmacology and neurology depts.

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:15:21 PM
S33: Thanks. I haven't seen it at all so thought it was unusual. I didn't like the idea that he is ignored so good to know someone is speaking to him.

by Sue 5/13/2015 4:15:59 PM
Sather: Directs required neruoscience program class

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:16:27 PM
Sather: Also on curriculum committee

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:16:38 PM
Sather: confirms defendant was in his course

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:17:50 PM
@Sue, he's not being ignored. It's been reported that the DT does speak to him during breaks, just not during the trial.

by Liz 5/13/2015 4:17:52 PM
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Sather: "At the time, he sat, most commonly, near the front of the classroom"

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:18:14 PM
Sather: Says defendant didn't put his hands up much at all to answer questions

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:18:36 PM
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Sather: "There just wasn't very much engagement and very little eye contact was made... I would characterize that... I was somewhat concerned about that"

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:19:17 PM
They want him to look insane and detached from reality.

by Joey 5/13/2015 4:19:23 PM
Is there a close up of the theater model anywhere to look at?

by Angela Freeman 5/13/2015 4:19:41 PM
@AngelaFreeman: Not the model, but I made a map myself that I'm keeping updated with evidence:
7NEWS Denver | Stories and diagrams from inside Theater 9, where the shooting occurred | The Denver Channel | KMGH-TV
Stories and diagrams from inside Theater 9 of the Aurora Century 16, where the July 20, 2012 shooting occurred

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:20:06 PM
The defense originally would have been ok with a guilty plea for life in prison and the prosecution declined it to seek death penalty. Pleading insanity was the only way to try to avoid the death penalty = not insane.

by Jmets 5/13/2015 4:20:06 PM
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Sather: "Students are often shy, a lot of scientists are not the most outgoing people"

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:20:31 PM
Thanks Phil!

by Angela Freeman 5/13/2015 4:20:36 PM
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Sather: says trying to draw out students is a common issue. He was concerned about the defendant, but said it was a common situation

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:21:11 PM
@Joey: I thought of that but that would mean he isn't competent to stand trial. I was just curious. If they are speaking to him during breaks, I guess it makes sense.

by Sue edited by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:21:13 PM
Brauchler calls for defense exhibit 8 to be published. That's the course schedule

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:21:36 PM
Sather: Hasn't always been successful at drawing people out of their shells in class

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:22:40 PM
I think that they are doing everything to not let him stand trial.

by Joey 5/13/2015 4:22:41 PM
He is on trial...

by jj1114 5/13/2015 4:23:49 PM
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Sather: "its pretty hard to teach if you're not going to be interactive with your students"

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:24:09 PM
Sather: "People very commonly go to grad school b/c they are good students..." but "people decide that research work is not for them"

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:26:03 PM
@Joey and @NT8 - I think the "not standing" issue was directed at Dan King, don't you think? He comes off as pretty cocky.

by Nadine 5/13/2015 4:26:10 PM
Sather: Had no contact with the defendant between end of class and oral exam

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:26:31 PM
Sather: Was the chair of one of the two examining committees. Both asked the same questions. Exams lasted 1 hour, and Sather kept the exam on time.

by Phil Tenser 5/13/2015 4:27:35 PM

Movie theater shooting trial day 12: Testimony about evidence found in trash will resume

When testimony begins Wednesday morning in the trial of James Holmes, a former FBI agent will return to the stand to discuss the evidence collected from trash outside the apartment building at 1690 Paris St.

7NEWS Denver | Stories and diagrams from inside Theater 9, where the shooting occurred | The Denver Channel | KMGH-TV