Carr is finished and excused. Judge asks Orman and Higgs to approach
- New Witness
Defense calls John Gonglach, their investigator
Gonglach identifies bank records
Gonglach noting when the defendant paid donations or fees to the charity
- Cross-examination starts
Gonglach admits on cross he doesn't know precisely what the fees were fore
- New Witness
The defense calls Lois Spann
Spann says she is from California, near San Diego
Spain says she attends church with the Holmes family. She works for the church as Director of Congregational Life
Spann identifies photo of the church where she works
- Cross-examination starts
Edson has some questions for Spann
Spann confirms she doesn't know the defendant, but says she saw him at church when he was much younger
- New Witness
The defense calls Lori Bidwell
Bidwell says she lived near the Holmes family in the 90s
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