Exactly NT8....not crazy...methodical thinking!

So he did say 4 were not ballistic holes, (scatching my head on that)

@Phil, Understood, You can only get what you can get.

@Bradders - really? That amount of planning over that long of a period of time? You might think so but it makes me skeptical that Schizophrenia alone is to blame. Mental illness doesn't = insanity. I think most of us could agree that Ted Bundy was mentally ill but he was sane, too.

I think saying someone was (or is) "insane" is too vague. You have to be a bit nuts to want to (and do so) kill someone. Does that mean you're not sane? No. You can still live your life as any sane person would, its just that aspect of you that is off. It really should be a more defined defense.

JH not even looking at the screen.

The delusional plan or 'mission' started going into action in May 2012 (that was when he bought the gas canisters if my memory serves me correctly, feel free to correct me if I've remembered that wrongly!). So that would be just under 3 months for physically beginning to get stuff together - we don't know how long he was thinking about this plan) So really, in the grand scheme of things that isn't a long period of time. Time enough for a person at psychotic level thinking in March 2012 to get considerably worse and start putting his delusional plan into action.

You think about previous cases and you wonder why some people are considered insane and thus given NGRI whilst others aren't even though what they did was still off the wall. It is interesting. I will be listening to the psychiatric expert witnesses with interest!

I wish we could see those diagrams now, while they are talking about them. It's hard to follow along.

Good info Doc!

@Bradders, Get off it dude, That subject will be done by the Psychs. We are not talking about that during this testimony.

@deepinsider - does the state have an option to deny the Insanity plea? I have no idea...which is why I am asking

The ability to plan, methodical and on a grand scale or simple, has nothing to do w/ mental illness. Just because you can plan something, no matter how intricate or simple, violent intent or not, doesn't mean you're not mentally ill. Insanity means the inability to distinguish between right and wrong, not whether you're mentally ill or not. JH can be schizophrenic but not insane. Society has a very long way to go when it comes to understanding mental illness. No one should ever be ashamed to get help but w/ so many judgements and stereotypes by those who don't care or don't want to and rather stay in their little bubble w/ their incorrect information or lack of empathy, it's difficult to admit you're struggling to even those closest to you.

the first psychs to come in were from the state, not either side. but nt is right.. not on that right now.

Please people, enough of the sane vs insane discussion. Let's wait for the psych experts and then we can discuss.

i'm thinking he knows his stuff. this part is a little on the lame side, but earlier when he was talking about the mathematics of it and all.. impressive.

I'm looking at the photos Phil posted...and is that the actual theater 9 that he did this reconstruction in? They must've cleaned it up before he did it.