Theater shooting trial day 17: The final day of week 4

Prosecutors are now approximately halfway through the presentation of their case in the trial of James Holmes for the Aurora movie theater shooting.

3rd & 7 37yd

JH was/is sane. He was pissed off with society and this was his horrific evil revenge. He knows right from wrong for many reasons. Lets start with wearing a gas mask and body amour to protect himself. The DT doctors will clinically label him as insane but wait until you hear how much they got paid for their evaluation and testimony.

by Sandy 5/21/2015 4:35:24 PM
Oo wonder why it's so disorganized...

by KP 5/21/2015 4:35:26 PM
@NT8: there was 22 pages of possible witnesses with 44 names per page...I hope they don't call them all.

by Stephany 5/21/2015 4:35:27 PM
@Phil Any release of the Brett drawings yet? FBI guy with Trajectories. That I would like to see.

by NT8 5/21/2015 4:35:28 PM
@NT8: not yet, expected soon

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 4:35:40 PM
Thanks Rheba!! Witness count 137!

by NT8 5/21/2015 4:36:21 PM
Orman reorganizing item numbering

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 4:36:30 PM
- Objection
Defense objections relevancy and cumulative to financial docs

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 4:36:58 PM
- Objection
Relevancy objection to CU docs from backpack. also hearsay

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 4:37:15 PM
- Quote
"I believe that the items a person choses to keep and suround themselves with is evidence of mental state" Orman says

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 4:37:45 PM
There you go JG!!!

by NT8 5/21/2015 4:38:49 PM
I stepped out for a bit. Does anyone know the significance of the symbol on poster board?

by Angela Freeman 5/21/2015 4:39:09 PM
Orman arguing that the kept records show defendant knew they were important and should keep them

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 4:39:25 PM
Here we go...bumbling Orman wants to get all heated up because the defense team objects to something...how dare they try to defend their client! WHAT?

by amjinoh 5/21/2015 4:40:22 PM
I love Orman and his passion! I wouldn't call him bumbling at all.

by Mandi 5/21/2015 4:43:57 PM
The jury should most definitely see his financial records. After all, it is with his own money that he killed/ hurt all those people!

by me 5/21/2015 4:43:58 PM
How are financial docs for the purchases and record keeping NOT relevant? I think they're more than relevant as it proves premeditation and planning.

by McGruber 5/21/2015 4:43:59 PM
Orman makes a good point and I agree with what he's saying.

by Liz 5/21/2015 4:44:00 PM
I agree with what Orman is saying...

by SRyan 5/21/2015 4:44:01 PM
He may be more heated than is necessary, but I don't think he's wrong, either.

by Angela Freeman 5/21/2015 4:44:03 PM
@amj Everyone wants the DT to defend their client but no one wants the DT to mislead or hide evidence to the jury. Let the truth come out and the Defendant judged accordingly.

by Abrandt 5/21/2015 4:44:52 PM
This is Crucial stuff for the PT.

by NT8 5/21/2015 4:45:17 PM
This judge should allow it and he has been very reasonable!

by Joey 5/21/2015 4:46:10 PM
by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 4:46:13 PM
Sertaline bottle zoomed in on. RX came from Dr Fenton

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 5:03:27 PM
A bike tool kit, mouse pad photo of family? WT?????

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:03:59 PM
Other RX also from Dr. Fenton

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 5:04:13 PM
@kristle I have taken both of those medications at the same time and they are commonly prescribed at the same time. Usually Klonopin is used during an anxiety attack.

by Catherine 5/21/2015 5:04:22 PM
No additional cross. No re-direct. No Jury questions. Wilson will be excused. Jury will handle evidence next

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 5:04:35 PM
Manic behavior, yes. But (this is just my personal judgement based on what I'm hearing about JH) he is suffering from the same type and degree of anxiety as I am. Severe social and general anxiety. This is something I've suffered from since I was about six years old. All of this stuff is very familiar to me. It's not really indicative of an acute, manic episode.

by Angela Freeman 5/21/2015 5:06:17 PM
Poor me, I miss my family, and no one will fix my bike but me?

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:06:57 PM
@Catherine: Ah, I see. He had a lot of pills left in the Klonopin bottle compared to the other 2. Shows he took the antidepressant more often than the Klonopin.

by Kristle 5/21/2015 5:09:34 PM
LOL, @NT8

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:09:34 PM
I'm confused regarding the cross... What was she trying to show, anyone have ideas?

by Bo 5/21/2015 5:11:13 PM
@ Angela The side effects of the drugs can cause Manic behavior and suicidal ideations. In some people, the two anti-depressants can cause these symptoms. The symptoms are not the desired effects of the drugs. They are side effects in some people. I am not saying he was manic, but it would certainly be an argument I would consider if I were his defense team.

by Catherine 5/21/2015 5:11:15 PM
Yeah, strange cross

by KP 5/21/2015 5:11:17 PM
@Kristie Some medications are only taken during an anxiety attack while the others (antidepressants/anti anxiety meds) are taken preventatively

by Saira 5/21/2015 5:11:18 PM
@AJS: Hope we do hear from Dr. Fenton!

by Kristle 5/21/2015 5:11:19 PM
Just got the published documents from yesterday... but no trajectory diagrams. media.thedenverchannel.com

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 5:11:44 PM
My husband also took some of the same drugs for depression and anti-anxiety when he was suicidal over a health scare. He eventually stopped taking them, even though he was told to, because they made him gain weight and feel loopy.

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:11:46 PM
I hope so too, @Kristie. That would really give us some insight, I think.

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:12:40 PM
Was Dr. Fenton the one that called the University to warn them about JH but decided not to when told he dropped out?

by Kristle 5/21/2015 5:12:41 PM
Don't search my motorcycle, You will find Tire spoons, and extra tubes.

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:13:09 PM
And a tool kit for an entire teardown of that bike.

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:13:18 PM
@Kristle: Yes

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 5:13:26 PM