Theater shooting trial day 17: The final day of week 4

Prosecutors are now approximately halfway through the presentation of their case in the trial of James Holmes for the Aurora movie theater shooting.

3rd & 7 37yd

@Catherine: Ah, I see. He had a lot of pills left in the Klonopin bottle compared to the other 2. Shows he took the antidepressant more often than the Klonopin.

by Kristle 5/21/2015 5:09:34 PM
LOL, @NT8

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:09:34 PM
I'm confused regarding the cross... What was she trying to show, anyone have ideas?

by Bo 5/21/2015 5:11:13 PM
@ Angela The side effects of the drugs can cause Manic behavior and suicidal ideations. In some people, the two anti-depressants can cause these symptoms. The symptoms are not the desired effects of the drugs. They are side effects in some people. I am not saying he was manic, but it would certainly be an argument I would consider if I were his defense team.

by Catherine 5/21/2015 5:11:15 PM
Yeah, strange cross

by KP 5/21/2015 5:11:17 PM
@Kristie Some medications are only taken during an anxiety attack while the others (antidepressants/anti anxiety meds) are taken preventatively

by Saira 5/21/2015 5:11:18 PM
@AJS: Hope we do hear from Dr. Fenton!

by Kristle 5/21/2015 5:11:19 PM
Just got the published documents from yesterday... but no trajectory diagrams. media.thedenverchannel.com

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 5:11:44 PM
My husband also took some of the same drugs for depression and anti-anxiety when he was suicidal over a health scare. He eventually stopped taking them, even though he was told to, because they made him gain weight and feel loopy.

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:11:46 PM
I hope so too, @Kristie. That would really give us some insight, I think.

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:12:40 PM
Was Dr. Fenton the one that called the University to warn them about JH but decided not to when told he dropped out?

by Kristle 5/21/2015 5:12:41 PM
Don't search my motorcycle, You will find Tire spoons, and extra tubes.

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:13:09 PM
And a tool kit for an entire teardown of that bike.

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:13:18 PM
@Kristle: Yes

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 5:13:26 PM
@Catherine - Agree. You're not wrong, and I'd expect a defense team to use it definitely. But it's likely he's been this way most of his life, was all I was getting at. =)

by Angela Freeman 5/21/2015 5:13:45 PM
Maybe he wasn't on both at same time... given one then changed to another?

by SRyan 5/21/2015 5:13:46 PM
Dr Fenton story from the archive:
Holmes Psychiatrist Notified Campus Police Of Concerns
7NEWS The psychiatrist treating accused theater killer James Holmes called the University of Colorado police department six weeks before the shooting, asking for a background check, sources told CALL7 Investigators.

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 5:13:51 PM
@Kristie. You could sumize that he took less of one than the other, but it would depend on when the prescriptions were purchased. Klonopin is highly addictive. It is a Valium derivative.

by Catherine 5/21/2015 5:13:56 PM
Well, @NT8, maybe we should be concerned about your mental state then? LOL

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:14:23 PM
It doesn't matter in hindsight though, does it? Because a background check wouldn't have pulled up anything on Holmes as far as I'm aware.

by Angela Freeman 5/21/2015 5:16:01 PM
@AJS, Plus a laptop with the CD version of the repair Manual. Better turn myself in......

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:16:02 PM
@Phil: Thanks! Link with picture too!

by Kristle 5/21/2015 5:16:03 PM
@Angela I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think the drugs caused his behavior by any stretch. But, the defense may try to use them to get him off.

by Catherine 5/21/2015 5:16:10 PM
@AJS: I bet the jury already has a lot of questions for Dr. Fenton.

by Kristle 5/21/2015 5:17:05 PM
Yea in the beginning people were saying that this whole thing was Dr. Fenton's fault. Keep in mind I'm remembering this from 3 years ago but what ever happened with the notebook that JH sent to the school 2 weeks before the the shooting detailing his whole theatre plan and the notebook was found 1 day after the shooting in a mail room or something like that?

by me 5/21/2015 5:17:12 PM
While we wait: What would be your strategy for this afternoon if you were an attorney? Last hours before a 4-day weekend

by Phil Tenser 5/21/2015 5:17:15 PM
@Phil, all first responders and victims!

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:18:17 PM
I think that's a bit cruel to try to put all this on her.

by Angela Freeman 5/21/2015 5:19:12 PM
@AJS, Does the fact I have a power inverter for recharging the laptop hurt me also?

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:19:14 PM
@Phil, I would do what you suggested might happen... Memorable and emotional testimony.

by KP 5/21/2015 5:19:15 PM
@Phil. A shrink....the first of several I hope

by Valm46 5/21/2015 5:19:18 PM
@Phil more dry info, then Victims/survivors.

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:19:25 PM
@Phil, I would want to fill up the last hours with testimony from the victims.

by Liz 5/21/2015 5:19:40 PM
@Angela. One other comment. He could have a social anxiety. However, there are many other disorders that cause social anxiety symptoms. schizoid personality disorder, schizophrenia, Anti social behavior disorders, etc. There are a bunch of them. We won't know anything until a psychiatrist gives a clearer picture. I am willing to bet this is way beyond a social anxiety.

by Catherine 5/21/2015 5:20:38 PM
@Angrla, agreed. Let's place the blame where it belongs, on the person who committed the crime.

by KP 5/21/2015 5:20:39 PM
I'd like to hear from the ex-girlfriend soon....but she probably will come later, with the psychologists.

by Stephany 5/21/2015 5:20:56 PM
no no, let me clarify, I wasn't in anyway implying that any of this was her fault. Simply remembering what I read during the aftermath of the shooting. Alot of finger pointing in Fenton's direction.

by me 5/21/2015 5:21:01 PM
@Phil Then Tuesday another Survivor, an injured one at that. Just to remind them.

by NT8 5/21/2015 5:21:02 PM
@NT8, you better turn yourself in. Poor you, having to fix your own motorcycle!

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:21:13 PM
@Angela: I wonder if a background check requested by a psychiatrist would have been more extensive than a regular one thus revealing he was pulled over going too fast by the police officer when he was heading home from the gun range. Remember he had the gun case in the backseat.

by Kristle 5/21/2015 5:21:29 PM
Dry/Boring stuff so the jury will have a peaceful weekend. THey don't want the jury to go all PTSD fearing a huge emotional load at the end of every week.

by DocJ 5/21/2015 5:21:31 PM
Yea, again, wasn't blaming her.

by me 5/21/2015 5:23:01 PM
@Me - I understood. Sorry, that comment wasn't directed at you. =)

by Angela Freeman 5/21/2015 5:23:01 PM
@me, I think I remember somethin like that coming out when it first happened as well.

by KP 5/21/2015 5:23:02 PM
Good point, Doc. I hadn't thought of that.

by AJS 5/21/2015 5:23:03 PM

Theater shooting trial day 17: The final day of week 4

Prosecutors are now approximately halfway through the presentation of their case in the trial of James Holmes for the Aurora movie theater shooting.

Holmes Psychiatrist Notified Campus Police Of Concerns