Theater shooting trial day 38: Dr. Woodcock to return to the stand, jail video likely to be shown

Dr. Jonathan Woodcock, the defense's expert, is going to return to the stand for the remainder of his cross-examination Friday. James Holmes' attorneys are also likely to screen for the jury another jail video showing the gunman in November of 2012, around the time that they say his mental health condition became aggravated in the jail.

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tad agreed

by bob 6/26/2015 5:33:12 PM
IMO, I think he was sane during the time of the theater shooting because he called the CU hotline for help to prevent him from shooting but it was disconnected after 8 seconds. Also, in the sanity video, he said he knew "it was legally wrong to do it."

by EZ 6/26/2015 5:33:19 PM
Dr Woodcock is being asked about the phrase "rescue delusion"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:33:34 PM
Woodcock confirms that term isn't in the DSM5

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:33:50 PM
so this doctor was assigned to this case to analyze sanity..... he had nothing to do with CRIME SCENE

by Katie Arlene 6/26/2015 5:33:56 PM
This is a PERFECT example for why we need more mental health knowledge in this country..... and definitely more and better treatment

by Tad Gilbreath 6/26/2015 5:34:01 PM
I think Brauchler is looking very good! Brauchler = voice of the murder victims!

by Mandy L 6/26/2015 5:34:08 PM
Thanks, Phil! I'm curious to see what type of approach he takes with his cross of her...or if he lets a different attorney do the cross? That will be interesting!

by jward12 6/26/2015 5:34:10 PM
@Tad no JH dropped the ball on the treatment! You cannot force a person into treatment unless they are a minor!! If you are a lawyer you would know that!!

by Joey 6/26/2015 5:34:15 PM
@Tad Dr Feinstein and Fenton testified that JH never told them he had guns or plans or they would have committed him.

by Abrandt 6/26/2015 5:34:17 PM
Brauchler is turning off the jury ..GUARANTEED

by Katie Arlene 6/26/2015 5:34:48 PM
Hopefully Dr Gur will be more competent.

by Suzanne 6/26/2015 5:34:49 PM
@Joey, that is NOT true. Adults can be committed. I know because I've lived it.

by Tad Gilbreath 6/26/2015 5:35:12 PM
@brandi psychotic breakdown is beyond any social or inherently healthy concept of right or wrong----it is a period of insanity

by oxk 6/26/2015 5:35:12 PM
@TadGilbreath: Just keep in mind in these comments and discussions that doctors, you, anyone can believe this shooting wouldn't have happened if the defendant didn't have a mental illness but that is not the same as Colorado's law on legal insanity

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:35:13 PM
Legal insanity is exclusively about the ability to know the difference between right and wrong, and forming intent

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:35:49 PM
All opinions should be WELCOMED here, but all I see are attacks on those thinking its a possibility that JH was legally insane at the time of the shooting. Can we please focus on the trial?

by Annie 6/26/2015 5:35:55 PM
@Annie: Agreed, I want to pay attention to the testimony and not editing these comments

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:36:12 PM
Yes I think so, too @Kate

by NeuroNonsense 6/26/2015 5:36:16 PM
@Katie Arlene- I don't agree; Juan Martinez was much more aggressive in the Arias trial & that did not turn out in her favor.

by brandi 6/26/2015 5:36:39 PM
Thanks @Phil

by NeuroNonsense 6/26/2015 5:36:40 PM
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"I think that my conclusions are well supported by the information that I have cited"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:36:41 PM
@Phil, thank you for the clarification. Thank you for pointing that out... I do not know CO law on this subject.

by Tad Gilbreath 6/26/2015 5:36:50 PM
@TadGilbreath: It has been at the center of our discussions for months. I know you're new to our chat, but please keep that in mind from here on out

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:37:16 PM
I have my doubts King is skillful enough to rehab this testimony under re-direct...he just doesnt appear to have thorough with his evaluation

by debitwo 6/26/2015 5:37:20 PM
Let me Focus on the video's you DIDNT watch

by NT8 6/26/2015 5:37:25 PM
I'm going back to watching the trial....thanks for the conversations :)

by Tad Gilbreath 6/26/2015 5:37:36 PM
Change his mind? Doesn't he mean make his mind up?

by Tammy Garrison 6/26/2015 5:37:46 PM
Thank you, Phil. I don't think everyone is understanding the difference between being medically insane and the legal definition. I believe most folks, and I am speculating here, would agree that JH has a mental illness, but that has nothing to do with knowing right from wrong.

by Jennifer 6/26/2015 5:38:07 PM
I love the body language of Prosecutor when listening witness answers

by pass 6/26/2015 5:38:27 PM
B is doing a great job discrediting this so called Dr..Jurors don't like being bs to...

by Dennie Carp 6/26/2015 5:38:54 PM
Thank you @Phil... Mental illness is a medical construct, sanity is a legal one... In a court of law it's the legal constructs that count.

by puglife 6/26/2015 5:38:56 PM
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This quote is directed at the core of the subject the jury needs to decide: "You concluded that he knew others would think it was wrong, right?" "That's different than knowing it was wrong by societal standards. His delusions prevented him from understanding that"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:39:50 PM
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"When you say wrong by others, do you mean people who are not society?" Woodcock denies that, says that delusions were defendant's "operative basis for his behavior"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:41:07 PM
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"He believed that they would not be harmed, that they would not mind being killed. That's what his delusion told him"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:41:42 PM
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"he knew that what he was planning would take their lives, correct?" "Yes" "and he believed that they would resist those efforts?" "yes"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:42:17 PM
my goodness...."others" apparently doesn't mean "others".

by flip 6/26/2015 5:42:20 PM
I was the victim of attempted murder during a psychotic episode of a man, who was a stranger, many years ago. He killed himself years later, but I know the terror and now the possibility that there are others who are insane. Suggesting he be killed would have destroyed the core of my love of life. I would not want B. for any kind of politican, which is what is going on.

by oxk 6/26/2015 5:42:47 PM
*face palm*

by jward12 6/26/2015 5:42:53 PM
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"He regretted that. He hadn't wanted to kill children. but if that was another price to be paid that it would still increase his worth"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:45:21 PM
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"We have to ask, ultimately, what was going on at that time and what was the evidence that we have for understanding it" ... "A lot of the data, about his explanations for these things, was inconsistent - as I would expect it to be"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 5:45:22 PM
"His cognitive awareness did not...override these delusional beliefs that he had." Witness really getting into the psychological weeds to try to legitimate his "insanity" decree.

by puglife 6/26/2015 5:45:53 PM
@oxk wouldn't his success at murder also destroyed the core of your love of life? Not to be confrontational, I appreciate you sharing.

by Evan 6/26/2015 5:46:09 PM
Sarcasm is meant to create pain for another. It is always negative humor and part of degrading all justice. Not surprised by most of the blogs.

by oxk 6/26/2015 5:46:15 PM
@oxk - I'm sorry you had to go through that.

by Suzanne 6/26/2015 5:46:16 PM