Theater shooting trial day 38: Dr. Woodcock to return to the stand, jail video likely to be shown

Dr. Jonathan Woodcock, the defense's expert, is going to return to the stand for the remainder of his cross-examination Friday. James Holmes' attorneys are also likely to screen for the jury another jail video showing the gunman in November of 2012, around the time that they say his mental health condition became aggravated in the jail.

3rd & 7 37yd

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"I saw no rational reason for this shooting"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:18:40 PM
Seriously? Is there ever a rational reason for shooting someone?

by Tammy Garrison 6/26/2015 8:19:44 PM
"Many (of the questions) were answered by the facts of the case"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:20:00 PM
Key word here by King "Rational" notice the emphasis

by NT8 6/26/2015 8:20:10 PM
King says and Woodcock confirms that defendant told Dr. Gur he would have gone through with the shooting even if there was a cop nearby

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:20:32 PM
Yes, when it falls under "Make my Day Colorado Law" @Tammy

by LG 6/26/2015 8:20:38 PM
"Do you list every single thing that you have considered in your report?"
"No, I did not"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:21:15 PM
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"What is the purpose of your report?"
"To list the information that I have relied upon in my conclusion"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:21:36 PM
the problem is this dr. "cherry-picked" the evidence and info that supported this pre-determined decision of insanity

by mandi 6/26/2015 8:22:43 PM
But Doc, how can you form an accurate opinion when you don't take the time to research all of your facts?

by Stephany 6/26/2015 8:22:44 PM
King and Woodcock had difficulty planning times to meet, b/c of scheduling

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:23:52 PM
point prosecution is making mandi, and I agree with you.

by Tammy Garrison 6/26/2015 8:25:21 PM
a minute ago
"Do you list every single thing that you have considered in your report?"
"No, I did not" That right there proves he does not measure up to Reid.

by NT8 6/26/2015 8:25:24 PM
This "docs" reports have more holes than Swiss cheese!

by Victoria 6/26/2015 8:25:25 PM
The best you could wouldn't fly with me when a man's life is on the line.

by Tammy Garrison 6/26/2015 8:25:35 PM
Woodcock says he wouldn't accept assignment if he didn't have the opportunity to make his own judgments

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:27:05 PM
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"He did understand it was legally wrong"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:29:04 PM
it sounds like King is making excuses for his witness

by mandi 6/26/2015 8:29:07 PM
How can King keep getting away with testifying for the witness instead of just asking direct questions and let the Dr give his "OWN" answer?

by LG 6/26/2015 8:29:08 PM
BAM he knew it was legal Wrong, Keep shooting king, you have two feet.

by NT8 6/26/2015 8:30:15 PM
wait -- DT wants language in jury instructions changed from criminal to illegal

by mandi 6/26/2015 8:30:16 PM
@LG - we know that Woodcock can't answer his own questions.

by Suzanne 6/26/2015 8:30:39 PM
Woodcock calls Brauchler's question linking escape to sanity a false relationship

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:31:09 PM
@NT8...exactly!

by TammyC 6/26/2015 8:31:11 PM
Mandi, that's right. I forgot about that!

by Tammy Garrison 6/26/2015 8:31:55 PM
Dying laughing here NT8......Think he'll go after his colleagues if he runs out?

by Stephany 6/26/2015 8:32:56 PM
"Yes he did understand it is legally wrong." - So the argument is now that awareness of an act's illegality does not implicate an awareness of the act's immorality? Is there a legal precedent for this argument? Because this sounds absurd.

by puglife 6/26/2015 8:33:01 PM
King: "uh oh, that didn't come out exactly the way I wanted...."

by flip 6/26/2015 8:33:35 PM
JH was not delusional in thinking that he would not be able to escape -- actually proves he was being rational

by mandi 6/26/2015 8:33:37 PM
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"he was organized in pursuit of this delusional goal, this mission... He was able to organize that behavior. Unfortunately the direction/goal of the behavior was determined by his delusional state"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:34:08 PM
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"(organization) is probably the biggest misunderstanding about mental illness that is related to this case"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:34:49 PM
by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:35:45 PM
"He was in a state of psychosis and multiple intersecting delusions that were unfortunately goal directed in killing people"

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:36:05 PM
I think if this dr. repeats the word delusional enough - the jury will buy this load of *

by mandi 6/26/2015 8:37:34 PM
Well that makes sense. If his delusional state was the driving force behind his actions then he was insane at the time he committed the crime right?

by Me 6/26/2015 8:37:37 PM
Mandi, yours is a false premise. It doesn't prove he was not psychotic at

by oxk 6/26/2015 8:37:38 PM
he new what he was doing

by robin 6/26/2015 8:37:41 PM
Phil, on this organization and planning and this 2 prongs of legal sanity. Wouldn't that prove prong 2 - the intent? And since its either or, if I understood what your were saying at lunch, if it does, does it fit the either or test? That is the intent test?

by Tammy Garrison 6/26/2015 8:37:44 PM
@TammyGarrison: It would appear that this doctor is asserting the CAUSE of the planning is the illness and that is why

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:38:16 PM
Seems to me that Dr. Woodcock's assertions about Holmes would suggest that he'd also excuse Dylann Roof of legal culpability for the church killings in SC because, after all, Roof was having racist delusions at the time.

by flip 6/26/2015 8:39:25 PM
OK, thanks.

by Tammy Garrison 6/26/2015 8:39:59 PM
Is it possible he could be faking mental illness in all his interviews with psychiatrist? His attack was so well thought out, and he is no dummy, he knew he would not be put to death because of insanity he has been faking mental illness? Does this make sense?

by Deb 6/26/2015 8:41:29 PM
"Of all those things that were raised, did anything change your opinion...?" No

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:41:49 PM
"Did you reach the same diagnostic conclusion and opinons as dr metzner?" Yes. Dr Gur? Yes. Dr Reid? Yes

by Phil Tenser 6/26/2015 8:42:28 PM
I wish this doc would address the defendant's capacity to play the psychiatric community with the specific, organized goal of achieving a NGRI verdict so that he can live out his life as a mental patient...that is, basically he had a retirement plan, and he organized it and carried it out.

by flip 6/26/2015 8:42:38 PM