doc j what about founding fathers and their relations to indigenous people and then later slaves, mentally defected people. didn't they say something about democracy and then didn't apply to anyone other than those who agreed to allow some heinous acts in their name Its a high, slippery slope to get ahold of, let along climb in order to change. This particular trial seems like contemporary subject matterr and is not yet being fully grasped or grappled with in our country. we are used to pain and creating more pain supposedly as a relief through revenge (same as long before our lifetimes)

I think this is a Death Penalty case only because it is a job creation program for the lawyers, like I said earlier the odds of JH being executed are way up there even if sentenced to death. I do not see the state of Colorado changing a trend that has been going on for some 19 years.

@Happy why are you posting go fund me links in this blog it has nothing to do with this case?

IMO; The jury (all humans) have their minds already set with punishment. Does the penalty have to be unanimous?

Base on the comments of today, I predict that there will be at least 1 dissenting jury vote. It 's not a matter of having "guts" to vote for DP (saying that really belittles the work of this jury). It has to do with beliefs about mental illness. So ultimately, while the victims and survivors will have their day in court, so will JH. He will have been afforded additional days of notoriety, that he craves, receive the original penalty that he pled, and remain as warped ever-imho.

@ Resa, yes

@resa. yes, the judge explained that in one of the instructions.

Agree with you flip. Hadn't thought of it before, but having another person on the team get up and speak says, "Its not just me that feel that way."

LG, It is a cop that is involved in this case. He had to leave his wife to come and testify. So therefore I thought that people here would care about him and his family.

@fascinated--Thank you, friend.

Will the judge have the final words for defendant? Is that optional?

Samour said asterisk again. Hehehehe.

@Lynn ..He is ill. Not insane but ill.

@LG, I've seen it many times over the past few month in here.

Actually its not wrong to kill an ill person. He can't be fixed, he killed a little girl. He deserves death

I have to wonder...with all the "sympathy" for JH I am reading...how those who feel his life should be spared would feel if it was one of their loved ones who were killed or injured by JH...?

kd when there are pantheons of gods, the symbolism almost always points to the binary oppositions of every single thing in the world. A cycle is created and choice to prolong one's pain is made by personal choice.
mrd----me too. Personally, I think he was insane, but there is not a language yet for it. Forensics is of some importance, but is too segregated from how we come to observe this illness, if that is even possible, should it always break away from the norm in many different ways, and certainly not within a concept of fixed time.

humble, i take it you don't like Brauchler

Maybe he wishes to die.

What does God or religion have to do with this trial? Look for God in the fiction aisle in the library.

Some of us don't believe in God, therefore these religious arguments of the Lord judging him are irrelevant.

@Robin -- my view isn't based on sympathy of any kind. I'm against the death penalty in all cases, but it seems especially wrong to execute a mentally ill person, even if they were not found not guilty by reason of insanity.