Theater shooting trial day 53: Start of the penalty process

Day 53 in the Aurora movie theater shooting trial – People vs. James Eagan Holmes. Today, the penalty phase of the case begins. The jury found Holmes to be legally sane and therefore guilty when he went into the midnight premiere of the Dark Knight Rises in an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater and opened fire on the audience, killing 12 and wounding 70.

3rd & 7 37yd

I just hope that fact that Newsweek knew the foreman's name and how they got it has no impact on this trial

by vt 7/22/2015 7:03:11 PM
Is she joking? She better not do this the whole time! They were given these slides yesterday and had an opportunity to object already!

by Della (Me) 7/22/2015 7:03:15 PM
Lori, the forman wasn't on Twitter. Somone sent him the link. He didn't open the link.

by Tammy Garrison 7/22/2015 7:04:25 PM
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Orman: "He brought in a magazine that could hold 100 rifle rounds. And he used steel penetrator rifle rounds... to kill as many people as he could."

by anica.padilla 7/22/2015 7:04:35 PM
@Pcmamanim...I completely respect your opinion/view...no "slam"...I happen to strongly believe JH deserves the DP...

@Me...I was not the one who made the implication...regarding The Lord...just replying...also, not "mocking" anyone...I too am entitled to my opinions on the subject as are you...I happen to agree with @Mark...

by Robin 7/22/2015 7:04:38 PM
@Tammy G thank you!!

by LG 7/22/2015 7:04:41 PM
The link has already been altered and the Jury Foreman's name removed.

by Just Thinkin 7/22/2015 7:04:43 PM
Missed it-did Orman bring up how much ammo the killer brought into theater yet? That would apply to killing kids. He wanted to kill EVERYONE....

by fascinated 7/22/2015 7:04:48 PM
@Kate... there's another TV that JH can see straight ahead

by LG 7/22/2015 7:04:54 PM
Other folks get to express themselves in a non-religious fashion while those who are religious put up with it. Let everyone express themselves regardless as to whether you like their commentary or not.

by lildeuce32 7/22/2015 7:04:56 PM
@LG oops, perhaps it was just Monday, days seem to blur :/

by Just Thinkin 7/22/2015 7:05:02 PM
Suzi, I do understand your thinking Insanity might be likened to quantum physics: there are totally unpredictable events. There are so many possibilites, some might only be once eons---same with insanity, at least where medicine is now. Much reasonable doubt in this case, even if he wasn't insane. Not about the killings, but state of mental illness, which is undisputed.

by oxk 7/22/2015 7:05:13 PM
As if JH knew the theater would be filled with children. He didn't go in with the intent to 'kill children', he went in with the intent to kill anyone and everyone.. there's a difference. It doesn't excuse the fact that he did indeed kill a child, but such a statement insinuating he knew there would be a bunch of kids there, at a midnight showing of a violent movie, is real misleading.

by Heather 7/22/2015 7:05:22 PM
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Orman shows damage from gunshots in Theater 9 - "Does this show grave risk of death? I submit to you, yes."

by anica.padilla 7/22/2015 7:06:56 PM
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Orman: "Everybody in Theater 9 that wasn't killed was in grave risk of being killed."

by anica.padilla 7/22/2015 7:07:32 PM
i actually think orman was more effective without the slides... also regarding the foreman's twitter account, he should not have to alter anything - it's very common to be on twitter with your full name.. and regardless, his privacy should have been respected

by lk2015 7/22/2015 7:12:57 PM
@Heather, he went in then out again to put on his armor, get his weapons etc. He would have seen or heard children then. And he shot that poor little girl 4x's.

by Lori J 7/22/2015 7:13:00 PM
Preach on, Brother Orman! (pun intended) Put this animal down.

by kdsmith 7/22/2015 7:13:03 PM
@fascinated, at least 76 shots and at least 670 individual projectiles.

by Kels 7/22/2015 7:13:06 PM
Does anyone know his ratio?

by SammySteinberg 7/22/2015 7:13:17 PM
@Robin, calling people bible thumpers and regarding people that read the bible and or believe in god is not an opinion, it's an insult.

by Me 7/22/2015 7:13:21 PM
"I submit to you" -- who's counting?

by Lynn 7/22/2015 7:13:24 PM
Orman is on the SLAM GAME OVER DT

by NT8 7/22/2015 7:13:25 PM
Does anyone know why "King" isn't here for any of this part and hasn't been back since the Verdict came down?!?!?

by LG 7/22/2015 7:13:35 PM
Were these photos shown at trial or censored?

by Lynn 7/22/2015 7:13:37 PM
What kind of murder is 'humane'? What's the legal standard for that?

by Lynn 7/22/2015 7:13:42 PM
Any idea how the family and survivors present are reacting? The cumulative information that is being presented now "in one breath" has got to be overwhelming.

by Mr.D. 7/22/2015 7:13:46 PM
@ oxk perhaps I should add that I am also a nurse practitioner and have experience in treating mental patients so please don't try to impress me with your quantum physics comment.

by Suzi 7/22/2015 7:13:52 PM
My own conclusion - the tear gas was not something to consider unnecessarily torturous by intent, because his intention was not to torture them with the tear gas.

by Heather 7/22/2015 7:13:56 PM
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Orman: "Her organs were literally pouring out of her body and had to be held in by hand."

by anica.padilla 7/22/2015 7:17:15 PM
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Orman: "He killed people who had no idea danger was coming."

by anica.padilla 7/22/2015 7:17:36 PM
King is there.Second row

by wp 7/22/2015 7:17:40 PM
@LG -- King is in the second row on defendant's side

by Lynn 7/22/2015 7:17:43 PM
@Heather - Is your tear gas comment just your opinion? Why do you think they call it "tear" gas? Because it tortures the eye and throat...burns them.

by kdsmith 7/22/2015 7:17:46 PM
Orman sounds a little like he is giving a sermon in a church

by Fpsych 7/22/2015 7:17:51 PM
LG- He's sitting behind Holmes.

by CSP 7/22/2015 7:17:53 PM
I hope he gets life in prison without the death penalty.

by lildeuce32 7/22/2015 7:18:12 PM
@ Heather - When JH saw the children at that show...he had the option to call of his murder spree.

by kdsmith 7/22/2015 7:18:22 PM
Heather, its the fear factor he's going after.

by Tammy Garrison 7/22/2015 7:18:28 PM
Heather- if you saw the whole testimony -the little girl who WAS killed was there because her mom thought Batman was cartoon-like. Not everyone considers Batman as a violent film-'especially those in certain generations. To think there would be NO kids in there, including pregnant women, is ridiculous!!! The killer scoped out concessions/candy/
popcorn, etc. before putting on his black protective gear. He was out in the general public before the movie began that night. You don't think he SAW young kids getting candy, wearing Batman costumes, etc.???? This was a premiere-a packed, "special occasion ". OF COURSE kids would be there. He INTENDED TO KILL EVERY ONE IN EVERY SEAT!!!

by fascinated 7/22/2015 7:18:42 PM
have you ever watched a preacher speak with a bible in his hand? he thumps it. it's just what they do.

by blue 7/22/2015 7:18:45 PM
If his *intent* and thought process was not to torture but simply to kill, would that not make a difference? I think so. I think there is a difference between wanting to torture and not intending torture.

by Heather 7/22/2015 7:19:03 PM
and the pro jh anti DP crowd is trying to save the last battleship?

by NT8 7/22/2015 7:19:10 PM
@LG King is there, he's sitting behind JH

by Della (Me) 7/22/2015 7:19:13 PM
Thanks, Kels!!! P.S. Make sure you go to work in a court room...I'm not forgetting... :)!

by fascinated 7/22/2015 7:19:18 PM