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Theater shooting trial day 53: Start of the penalty process
Day 53 in the Aurora movie theater shooting trial – People vs. James Eagan Holmes. Today, the penalty phase of the case begins. The jury found Holmes to be legally sane and therefore guilty when he went into the midnight premiere of the Dark Knight Rises in an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater and opened fire on the audience, killing 12 and wounding 70.
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My problem with that peps, is that is exactly what he wants and has stated such. That's why he did this in the way he did: so that he would get solitary or maximum security so he wouldn't have to be around other people and would have a bed and 3 meals a day. This is what he said he wanted. -
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OKX: I am glad that you are here. I haven't commented because I know the commenters here are not receptive to my point of view. This procedure has made me physically ill. It's bigger than James Holmes. To me, it's about our inadequate mental illness care and consequently the 20% of prison population who are severely mentally ill. This board has rejected the idea that Mr. Holmes is mentally ill although at least a half-dozen psychiatrists have diagnosed him with some form of schizophrenia.
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@peps curious to why you think DP needs to be stopped nation wide? I sure dont think people who take peoples lives in a horrible fashion (like this and the boston bombing) should be guaranteed they get to live the rest of their life, albeit never being free, they are still living. its that kind of reasoning that our justice system is a joke in this country.
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I have a difficult time referring to 'that guy' as Mr. Holmes - as someone else noted it's a sign of respect and I have no respect for him. And he's no longer a defendant in the sense that he's found guilty. I'm thinking 'that muderer' is most appropriate. Ms Brady might have been happier with 'that guy'.
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@okx: The difference in the opinions by dr.s mainly goes to the point that DT dr.s were PAID & very biased, PT experts were COURT APPOINTED, NOT on "the side"of PT. The credibility span there is pretty broad. The DT docs even worked with some of these same DT lawyers on prior cases...I'd consider their opinions biased versus court appointed forensic psychiatrists...
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I agree about doing away with the death penalty. I think killing to show that killing is wrong is madness. The death penalty is used as a form of vengeance, and that is not the purpose of the criminal justice system in this country. I think we are generally moving in that direction already. -
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Juries across the U.S. continue to hand down death sentences, and prosecutors continue to seek them. But the effective moratorium in Colorado — no capital punishment can be carried out unless the governor signs the death warrant — is part of a political retreat that is gaining momentum. The number of U.S. executions has dropped dramatically since 1999, along with the number of death sentences handed down by juries. Governors in four states, including Hickenlooper, have declared that they will not sign death warrants during their terms, citing the uneven way the punishment is carried out. This year, for the first time since these policies were adopted in Oregon, Colorado, Washington and Pennsylvania, major capital trials are taking place in two of those states that are testing juries' willingness to carry out the ultimate punishment.
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Loretta Otts-a jury of twelve of his peers (*ironically the same number of people he killed) REJECTED his not guilty by INSANITY plea. They went through the proper channels. He didn't even TRY NGRI until death was on the table. He admitted to sanity first, & pled guilty. He is GUILTY, now decided by 12 jurors. The psychs that were CREDIBLE (I.E. NOT paid experts for defense) found him SANE when he committed mass murder.
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happy for death. Not insane, by a jury. Yes, over with JH for the time being. If we all lived by the law of jury without challenge and changing we would really be in trouble. Think of all the millions in history killed by jurors and judges for their own grandiose sense of self and riches. This is a huge trial for every person who in the present or future might become insane or severely mentally ill. It is ignorant to not look at what the trial was about. Why am I hearing donald trump saying "kill" over and over.
