Barbara Martin says she saw gunman and his sister interact. Didn't exhibit sibling rivalry
- Objection

Barbara Martin describes Arlene as "a wonderful, caring, compassionate human being." She tears up and says objection to story about Martin's divorce is sustained
Barbara Martin says she trusted the gunman to pet sit
Barbara Martin also asked him to help with some landscaping
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Barbara Martin says gunman wasn't the kind of student/child who got in trouble or wanted attention
"I think he was perfectly happy doing whatever his pastimes were, I understood he liked the compute rand video games" Barbara Martin
Barbara Martin says "he didn't give them any trouble at all"
Barbara Martin says she is still close with the Holmes family, considers them all to be her friends
- New Witness

The defense calls Gabriel Menchaca
Menchaca says he was previously a camp counselor at same camp where gunman worked
Menchaca says he remembers the gunman from 2008
Menchaca says children were up to 12 you at the camp
Menchaca says the camp mission was to "make 'em have a good time, enjoy the summer"