“I felt guilty he wasn’t happier.”
Arlene Holmes tears up as she talks about wanting to make her family happier
Arlene Holmes says she had pets because it teaches responsibility and keeps kids calm
Photo on the screen now is Wimby, a photo of their dog. She sent the photo to her son in jail
"He was actually a difficult dog because he had a lot of health problems"
Other dog is Zupy, a canine companion but they kept him because he had bad hips
"he was always good with animals" Arlene says about her son
Now a photo of both dogs together
Arlene Holmes said they had to put down one of the dogs. Explained to children the dog would die the next day, but didn't explain euthanasia
"is the culture of your family to talk much about emotion?"
"No ,we don't talk much in general. We're all introverted. Chris is the chattiest. But emotions, not very much. When we get together, we're more doing things. But to just sit and talk that probably isn't my family culture."
Arlene Holmes agrees to describe family as "stoic"
"I was taguht to be stoic, don't complain, be greatful, help other people, don't be weak, be responsible, be strong"... and that was the same I handed down"
Arlene Holmes says they didn't know or understand about Aunt Betty's mental illness (Her husband's sister)
At one point I asked... I knew she was very anxious and that tempered her from working and I asked Bob's mom point blank what is wrong with her because if something happens to you I need to help look after her and bob's mom said I don't know, but she knew.
Arlene Holmes says her family had a similar culture, focused on "You're here on this earth to help weaker people so be strong"
Ok, Judge Samour is taking a break, jury exiting the room