Theater shooting trial day 58: Arlene Holmes expected to testify

After the father of the convicted Aurora movie theater shooter concludes the testimony he began Tuesday, the gunman's mother is expected to be the next witness to take the stand.

3rd & 7 37yd

She certainly chose the right profession for her.

by BluesB 7/29/2015 11:54:41 PM
I just realized who Nelson reminds me of... Paris Geller from Gilmore Girls.

by ms 7/29/2015 11:54:42 PM
Nelson: Your Honor, we object to the word, "the" as being ambiguous and prejudicial under the 4th, 6th, and 8th Amendments and a basic right of our client to a fair trial.

by flip 7/29/2015 11:54:43 PM
Anyone read the big slap down issued by the judge against the DT when they filed for him to recuse himself for bias? This was before trial started. He told them they had a pattern of filing frivolous motions and then crying 'bias' when those motions were denied. He was quite angry and said he would always protect the honor and dignity of the court and if that meant slapping them for being disrespectful, so be it. (My paraphrasing). This judge means what he says!

by Sophiamtn@gmail.com 7/29/2015 11:54:48 PM
Flip-agree with you re: phase 3. Anyone here that's left- thoughts on questions from jury to JH's mother? Revealing anything do you guys think, or no...?

by BluesB 7/29/2015 11:54:49 PM
I don't mind Nelson doing her job, I just hate that she is so inarticulate in doing it.

by Sophiamtn@gmail.com 7/29/2015 11:54:50 PM
Still working on instructions. Difficult for me to follow along since I can't read what he's reading, but we should get copies tomorrow, I hope

by Phil Tenser 7/29/2015 11:55:29 PM
Well, sounds like Nelson is retracting her objection, or suggesting just rearranging the order

by Phil Tenser 7/29/2015 11:56:01 PM
Nelson seriously needs to take a chill pill. She argues with EVERYTHING. These decisions and wordings are just as important for both sides...

by BluesB 7/29/2015 11:56:13 PM
Ha, ha, Edwards just got caught paying absolutely no attention!

by Sophiamtn@gmail.com 7/29/2015 11:58:30 PM
now onto the last instruction

by Phil Tenser 7/29/2015 11:59:04 PM
Nelson objects to her own questions

by Just Thinkin 7/29/2015 11:59:15 PM
Sophia-where can I find that ruling citing bias? I'd love to read it. He's been very civil to DT. I didn't realize that had happened...I've seen judges take things like that and actually later they do act a little biased, triggering appeals causes. J. Samour has been pretty much an angel, I think.

by BluesB 7/30/2015 12:00:31 AM
Good question, BluesB, I wondered about that, too. I don't think I'd have asked any questions of Mrs. Holmes if I were a juror on this case--not sure what to think about it. Maybe indicates some sympathy for the defendant? (I hope not). In any case, the answer that JH cried for his dog's death wasn't exactly compelling. It's pretty clear that he doesn't cry for his many victims.

by flip 7/30/2015 12:01:09 AM
Edwards is like "what/huh? Which trial is this again? Still the Holmes instructions? What year is this?"

by Sophiamtn@gmail.com 7/30/2015 12:02:24 AM
Defense proposes telling the jurors that individual jurors decide on the factors and all 12 reach the same outcome. She says that is to communicate that this is an individual moral decision. That request is denied

by Phil Tenser 7/30/2015 12:03:09 AM
Next item is a typo

by Phil Tenser 7/30/2015 12:03:13 AM
@Sophia The DT was dragging their heels then asking for more time (money) to be prepared. It was awful!

by Just Thinkin 7/30/2015 12:03:58 AM
That might be it for instructions

by Phil Tenser 7/30/2015 12:04:04 AM
Prosecution submitted a verdict form draft, judge asking if defense has an opinion

by Phil Tenser 7/30/2015 12:04:18 AM
@Sophia lol, right?

by Just Thinkin 7/30/2015 12:09:06 AM
Thanks for answering my question, Flip. I actually thought they were trying to see how much she really paid attention to him as a child, how genuine she is, etc. -vs- how much she was coached...seemed like a couple questions were "testing" for contradictions from her. (?)

by BluesB 7/30/2015 12:09:08 AM
BluesB did you follow the entire trial? Judge usually has a nice tone, but created some questions that could be looked at as prejudice Seems to me that any decent judge or attorney in co would be trying to get the state to abolish the dp instead of participating in it they should know the issues that make it such horrible law many of these professional do or should know the violent history of co that hidden in this law and talk with the people

by okx 7/30/2015 12:09:11 AM
Bluesb, it's in the list of documents included on the 'complete coverage' page. Unfortunately there is no easy way to find it except go through the lists. If I find it again, I'll post it tomorrow.

by Sophiamtn@gmail.com 7/30/2015 12:09:13 AM
Just thinkin-you are right. DT at beginning with delays were reprehensible.

by BluesB 7/30/2015 12:09:14 AM
I judt love how thorough Judge S is!!!

by BluesB 7/30/2015 12:09:15 AM
Bluesb, I thought the questions were asked just to be polite, to not seem like they were ignoring the mother.

by Sophiamtn@gmail.com 7/30/2015 12:09:17 AM
Thanks for answering my question, Flip- I answered you back, but don't know if it made it in...?

by BluesB 7/30/2015 12:09:18 AM
P. S. Thanks for your answer also, Sophia...

by BluesB 7/30/2015 12:10:58 AM
Have a great night, everyone! C u tomorrow! !

by BluesB 7/30/2015 12:10:59 AM
@Marsha you might be interested in going to International Amnesty as a beginning source for understanding DP; not a part-time, sometimes definition, but ...

by okx 7/30/2015 12:11:00 AM
I sure hope that Judge Samour doesn't feel a need to turn to the bottle after every one of these grueling sessions where he listens to endless argument on instructions. I think I would.

by flip 7/30/2015 12:11:02 AM
And thanks to Phil as usual. :)

by BluesB 7/30/2015 12:13:44 AM
the world is watching i hope the blog makes it to all those countries which can bring greater insight to the people of co

by okx 7/30/2015 12:13:45 AM
You could be right, BluesB--we'll know better when we hear the jury's decision on whether to proceed to Phase 3.

by flip 7/30/2015 12:13:46 AM
Sorry, getting loopy from all this but just have to say to Nelson, "We get it.. you waive nothing... you probably don't even wave goodbye." lol

by ms 7/30/2015 12:13:47 AM
Edwards looks so bored

by Just Thinkin 7/30/2015 12:13:48 AM
Flip, I've been so impressed at this judge's ability to limit and contain these types of nitpicking arguments. He only gives them one chance each. And he does his own homework so they can't BS him.

by Sophiamtn@gmail.com 7/30/2015 12:14:12 AM
Seems like we're almost ready to call it a wrap. Thank you everyone

by Phil Tenser 7/30/2015 12:14:13 AM
Nelson anticipates between 7-10 pages for the instructions they plan to submit

by Phil Tenser 7/30/2015 12:15:08 AM
Goodnight, see you all tomorrow

by Phil Tenser 7/30/2015 12:18:50 AM